PGCL--- anyone else onboard?

[taureauchien]

Had to chime in and give a report.
i'm starting 3rd month. had a few days of breaks periodically.
been trying high doses then break then low doses, break again.
Just started vial #11
my personal results , i officially hit the 16 pound mark in weight loss.
sounds good i know but it is incredible because i crave junk food on this stuff.
i dont mean mcdonalds type of junk (although i have been doing that a lot more than i used to)
but chocolate is my weakness....damn, i need atleast 1 candy bar a day.
i eat dunkin donuts for breakfast, and subway or chinese buffet for lunch/dinner and maybe a protein shake (chocolate/ peanut butter) at the gym....and am down 16 pounds.
i also noticed that low doses produced just as much sides as high doses.
trips to the shitter i mean.
so basically i think high doses are a waste of money and peptide.
i've been back on low dose shooting once sometimes twice a day.
i'm also noticing that unless i totally junk it up , the second shot rarely does anything anymore.
i get it all out in the first one.
also i'm staying with sub-q.
im injects did nothing for me except produce the same effects.
so i may as well let muscles heal for the next anabolic cycle coming up.

one final thing and i have no way to know or prove this is related to the pgcl, but lately everyone (and i mean everyone literally) that i know or have had the conversation of age has commented on my youthful appearance.
i'm 37 next month, and i've gotten 4 guesses of my age from people i dont know but have met through work or whatever state they thought i was 25 to 27. in the past few months i've banged 2 20 year olds and am making out with a 21 year old as we speak...(well not this very second but you kow what i mean....presently)....all didnt know i was this old.
my parents and friends have been commenting on how good i look and they make jokes about me aging backwards.
thing is is i see it too, i do look like i've dropped a few years....not complaining about that at all!!!
again i have no idea if it is related to the pgcl but either way i'm glad its happening because damn i'm haveing fun!

also i've been off cycle for a lil while and really didnt do much for p c t because i was starting this at the end of a cycle and wasnt sure if it would
keep me anabolic, so i didnt do a p c t.
.....i havent lost any muscle. actually i look bigger and more cut because of all the excess weight/bloat/fat i've lost.
so i dont think it matters if its sub q or im.....atleast not on me.
well thats my update.
i still have a good 10 pounds to go before i reach my goal.
i'm about to do a slight dnp cycle for about 2 weeks and include the pgcl in the last week to suck off the bloat it causes.
that should really kick off the pounds, then i'll be ready for my next cycle in oct.

i'm running only 1shot a day now unless i overdo it, then i add the 2nd at night a couple hours before bed.
i wake up seeing abs andthat makes for a happy start to my day.

 

[georgie24]

yellow froth lol

im saving my amps for next spring bro's, too busy to focus on supplement regimens, have tons of shit to do before i start a cycle

 

[socket]

It appears that this is it's chemical name:

Cloprostenol Sodium

http://www.ecic.com/product/api/pro-api-clopr-e.htm

(posted this in other PGCL thread, but it should have gone in here)

 

[td1111]

If the PGCL molecule ACTUALLY does kill fat cells and cause anabolism, them maybe higher doses are better, if you suffer the same side effects? Discuss.

 

[taureauchien]

now this is only from my personal experience with this stuff.
i found higher doses to be no better than lower.
i found too low a dose just gives me bad cramping gas, but does nothing else either.
i'd start at a moderate dose and use a little less until you get to that gassy stage, and that would be your low limit.
at the too low a dose i never lost any pounds, just bad farts.
i upped it a bit and got to the stage that makes me shit, and i've continued losing weight.
it doesnt always make me go, but most of the time it does.

too much always made me go, even if there was nothing left to shit out.
and got cold sweats, chills, tired, and a few other things to go with it.
even got a case of the dreaded hemorroids.
i lost weight but i didnt like that part of checking it out.

now that i found the lower dose that works for me, i'm dropping weight still.
shitting isnt bad...some days it is though. i'm saving money because i get more injects per vial.
and a respectable tolerance is built to where i really only need to inject once a day now, anything more just makes me gassy and have a few false alarms on the shitter.
but i'm still dropping about a pound every few days and eating anything i want.

so my opinion is the lowest dose possible that produces the shitting sides is
this best.
but that just may be me though.

 

[Phaded]

now this is only from my personal experience with this stuff.
i found higher doses to be no better than lower.
i found too low a dose just gives me bad cramping gas, but does nothing else either.
i'd start at a moderate dose and use a little less until you get to that gassy stage, and that would be your low limit.
at the too low a dose i never lost any pounds, just bad farts.
i upped it a bit and got to the stage that makes me shit, and i've continued losing weight.
it doesnt always make me go, but most of the time it does.

too much always made me go, even if there was nothing left to shit out.
and got cold sweats, chills, tired, and a few other things to go with it.
even got a case of the dreaded hemorroids.
i lost weight but i didnt like that part of checking it out.

now that i found the lower dose that works for me, i'm dropping weight still.
shitting isnt bad...some days it is though. i'm saving money because i get more injects per vial.
and a respectable tolerance is built to where i really only need to inject once a day now, anything more just makes me gassy and have a few false alarms on the shitter.
but i'm still dropping about a pound every few days and eating anything i want.

so my opinion is the lowest dose possible that produces the shitting sides is
this best.
but that just may be me though.

so if you were a newb again what dose would you try and start out on?

and would you recommend taking this with/without a low does of test .. say like 250mg/week

 

[hyp1]

I got a oil based source...still makes you shit but it isnt NEARLY as violent as the water based one...basically you drop a fat turd the length of your entire intestinal tract after about an hour or 2

how charming!
sign me the fuck up!

 

[taureauchien]

so if you were a newb again what dose would you try and start out on?

and would you recommend taking this with/without a low does of test .. say like 250mg/week

if i was a newb again, i'd take the 1/2 cc insulin pin that i use and fill it to the 15 mark.(you should get over a dozen of those from 1 vial). for me any less just cramped me up and made me all farty.
any more made me feel like i had to shit the whole 2 hours.
at that dose it took about 15 - 20 minutes and i'd have to hit the shitter and it was finished.....unless i really junked up on the grub, then i may have a couple more runs to the john.

as far as with test, i plan on doing that myself around oct.
my cycle plans are test/mast/tren with one daily inject to keep off bloat.
if any bloat happens.
i havent run it in a roid cycle so i cant give you a quality answer, but from what i've read up on, it combos nicely.
just dont expect it to increase anything (size,strength,weight)
i really dont think this stuff does anything more but get rid of excess water and fat.

my story why i got it, i bloat like a dead body on a cycle. and it hardly goes away no matter what i take. even after p c t i would still carry a lot of water. but thats just me, i've always been a water retainer, roids just increased it.
i tried so many things to get rid of excess water, some did good some didnt do shit.
this pgcl when i stumbled on it. told about all this benefits on size gain, no sides other than shitting, site injection growth, blah blah blah....
so i figured i'd try it.
it did none of that for me , but it shredded of my bloat within days.
i mean i literally was shitting waste water....which seemed to be gallons at a time, .....doubt it was ,but damn!!!
it was like pissing out my ass, bordering on a gross to much info here i know, but it is what happened to me.
i also have/had a lot of belly fat, and after the first few weeks i was seeing abs.
i'm in month 3 now and as i stated before i've dropped 16.
no other aids used really, i started to a couple times but changed my mind to see the pure effects of this stuff.
i've kept my size of past cycles, but dropped all the bloat and i can tell its working on fat now....probably because there is no more bloat to get rid of.

its good stuff if you dont expect the miracle drug people are advertising it as.
but it is great for what it does.

 

[Phaded]

wher are you injcting at

 

[taureauchien]

I did 25mcg three times today. It seems that the body gets more used to it after the first couple of doses. My biggest problem is fatigue. I had to nap for 2 hours this evening. I hope it gets easier. I'm rotating between biceps and calf IM injects.

Also, I find that by eating light, or liquids only, and by injecting prior to eating, I don't shit at all, except in the mornings as I usually have a nice proper dinner. I will try using immodium prior to injects, as others have reported reduced sides and diarrhea.

Also! Baby wipes are a godsend for preserving your ass

if i do to high a dose i get fatigued and wanna take a nap too.
i did a liquid day once and injected, man i wont do that again.
i pissed out my ass for almost 4 hours, and couldnt hold it til i got to the shitter because it was liquid....never again! fucking nasty and went through a few pairs of underwear that day.
i read that taking immodium dilutes the fat burning effects, is that happening to you?
i took pepto once with it and was a farting machine, decided to save the ozone and wont be doing that again!

and good call on the baby wipes