outer pecs what to do

[MarshallPenniford]

Bfold, I think it's a case of that is what you think is happenening, but not the reality of the situation.

 

[b fold the truth]

Bfold, I think it's a case of that is what you think is happenening, but not the reality of the situation.

If all bench pressing is equal then why do we do close grips to hit the tric more?

Why do we do wider grip bench pressing to hit the pecs and shoulders more?

If all chest movements are the same...then why do people prefer dbells over barbells often?

It wouldn't be because they might hit different areas of the muscle, would it? I think that it would.

B True

 

[MarshallPenniford]

Because when dealing with a compound movement, you can change your targeted muscles, and the degree of activation of those muscles, by changing your ROM, leverage, grip width, etc. It doesn't mean anything different is happening in the muscle other than the total number of fibers recruited changing.

Your chest doesn't know or care if it's doing a flye or a bench press, it does the exact same thing as far as your chest is concerned, you will just exclude the other assisting muscles with the flye, and possibly have a different response from the endrocrine system as well.

 

[onemind]

If all bench pressing is equal then why do we do close grips to hit the tric more?

Why do we do wider grip bench pressing to hit the pecs and shoulders more?

If all chest movements are the same...then why do people prefer dbells over barbells often?

It wouldn't be because they might hit different areas of the muscle, would it? I think that it would.

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That is exactly what I was trying say

 

[b fold the truth]

Because when dealing with a compound movement, you can change your targeted muscles, and the degree of activation of those muscles, by changing your ROM, leverage, grip width, etc. It doesn't mean anything different is happening in the muscle other than the total number of fibers recruited changing.

Your chest doesn't know or care if it's doing a flye or a bench press, it does the exact same thing as far as your chest is concerned, you will just exclude the other assisting muscles with the flye, and possibly have a different response from the endrocrine system as well.

Ok...you are mistaken. If you do not think that grip width makes a difference on which muscles are involved in the exercise...you are wrong. Closer and wider grips on the bench press, as well as when doing dips, make a huge difference which muscles are being worked.

Try taking a wide stance and doing a squat with your shins straight up and down...then try doing an ATTF squat. They are both squats yet you will feel one in your quads and one in your hams and hips.

If my chest doesn't know or care if it is doing a fly or a bench press...then why not just do flyes or cables for that matter?

You are basically saying that no matter how you do a movement...you can NOT work a muscle group any different. This is false. Look back on my speed upper workout from last Friday...tell me that when I do a closer grip it doesn't hit my inner pecs as well as my tric more than a wider grip does. It also makes them grow more.

Heck, if we use your theory...we could all do close grip bench press to develop our outter pecs...since all hand placements are equal.

B True

 

[MarshallPenniford]

B fold - read what I wrote again. That's exactly the opposite of what I said.

 

[FitnessFrk]

Originally posted by onemind
If all bench pressing is equal then why do we do close grips to hit the tric more?
Why do we do wider grip bench pressing to hit the pecs and shoulders more?
If all chest movements are the same...then why do people prefer dbells over barbells often?

all of the excercise that you mentioned provide different results because the target muscles and synergists used are all different.

 

[MarshallPenniford]

And yes, to develop your chest, you could only do flyes. That would be perfect.

 

[sorerotators]

And yes, to develop your chest, you could only do flyes. That would be perfect.

So much for that decline bench B Fold. I'm just gonna do flyes from now on.

 

[b fold the truth]

Me too...because I can't target any portion of my chest or any other muscle...flyes it is.

I can do flat flyes, incline flyes, decline flyes, lateral flyes, etc...for my huge chest. I also hope that I never hear anyone say that they really want to bring out their front delts again...or their outter bicep, or their quad sweep...it must be impossible after reading this thread.

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