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Once a week frequency? Why?

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louden_swain said:


pwr_machine,

This would be an excellent journal article for you to write!!:D

High Volume vs. Low Volume Training

Get 30 test subjects (experienced with training)

15 high volume trainers
15 low volume trainers

Several studies already suggest that the transition from high volume to low volume (i.e. periodization) is far more superior than any other type of training. One negative aspect of many of these studies is that they are performed with beginners. So, I agree, we need more studies with experienced lifters. I have a pretty good pilot study on Bigguns15's website. It's her "Advanced Training Cycle - I" Not all the data is up, but it is evident that lifts did increase substantially for the small group of experienced powerlifters.
 
louden_swain said:


pwr_machine,

This would be an excellent journal article for you to write!!:D

High Volume vs. Low Volume Training

Get 30 test subjects (experienced with training)

15 high volume trainers
15 low volume trainers

- Abstract -

1. Introduction
2. Literature Review
3. Methods
4. Discussion and Results
5. Conclusion

Actually, this would be a good dissertation:D .

Dude- I already suggested this- why not get some recruits off the board and do an online study???
 
Becoming said:


Dude- I already suggested this- why not get some recruits off the board and do an online study???
It would be very, very hard to get a group of experienced lifters to follow a new program with strict guidelines. Experienced lifters have the upper hand; they have learned what works for them and would most likely be unwilling to change.
 
Well, to be of any value it'd need to be controlled more than you could with people online. Same workout time (morning, night, etc), same diet, same exercises etc. Might be interesting anyway, but not really conclusive of anything otherwise.
 
pwr_machine said:
It would be very, very hard to get a group of experienced lifters to follow a new program with strict guidelines. Experienced lifters have the upper hand; they have learned what works for them and would most likely be unwilling to change.

This is true.

How would these trainers be monitored?? Keeping track of 30 trainers would be difficult.
 
pwr_machine-
I read over your info on Bigguns15's website, all I can say is a lot more thurough and convincing than the DC info... (lots of people, or I helped some non-descript guy gain 47 pounds-though he was pretty small to start) Nicely done.

Sure maybe a few more controls could be thrown in, but a good model to use and base other studies off of...

I know it would be hard to get people to adhere to something new and to follow a program they otherwise would not. Anyway, if you guys can get some more recruits, I would be in (I am not the most advanced in the world, but I think I could qualify as a good test subject)

It is funny that us with the "dinosaur" methods are more willing to put it to the test...

Debaser and Louden- Not ripping on your methods, like I said many times, I agree in theory 100%, but I would like to see something a little more convincing as far as evidence....Bigguns15's website at least took a step on that side....
 
sorry my spelling sucks-

again, not trying to get people here all wriled up, but just trying to put some quantifiable numbers on things as far as which is better/worse...
 
Becoming said:
pwr_machine-
I read over your info on Bigguns15's website, all I can say is a lot more thurough and convincing than the DC info...

....Bigguns15's website at least took a step on that side....

Bigguns15 will be very excited about your satisfaction with the looks of her program. We have alot of other info to post one of these days, but data analysis has yet to be completed. We did a handful of strength and power tests also that still need to be recorded.
 
Its funny when I think about it. . . lol. . we are all filled with opinions.

Sometimes we tend to take our opinions and cram them down peoples throat (I am guilty of this).

It all boils down to finding a training method that works best for you. Can you imagine what a newbie thinks, when he or she read the constant argument? I can only imagine the amount of confusion that emerges. This explains the plethora of questions that relates to "which training method should I follow?"

Lets end the madness for Pete's Sake!!! (I am kidding lol)
 
louden_swain said:
Its funny when I think about it. . . lol. . we are all filled with opinions.

Sometimes we tend to take our opinions and cram them down peoples throat (I am guilty of this).

It all boils down to finding a training method that works best for you. Can you imagine what a newbie thinks, when he or she read the constant argument? I can only imagine the amount of confusion that emerges. This explains the plethora of questions that relates to "which training method should I follow?"

Lets end the madness for Pete's Sake!!! (I am kidding lol)
Yeah, I imagine the newbie's are VERY confused!:D
 
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