Newb here

[AaronCDC]

Hey there, I am going to do this "journal" thing, but first I need some help, and sorry if this is the wrong spot.

I want to start a cycle... here is what I have so far as for gear...

Test E 250 (3 viles to last me at least 12 weeks)
Clomid 50 (PCT)( 2 bottles to last me as well)
and I got LiquiDex 30mg/mL (AI)

These were all told to me as to what I would need for my first cycle. So I am now wondering... How often of each, dosage of each.. if each is actually needed (I ask this as I was told the AI is not necessarily needed, the LiquiDex, but is good to have just in case?).

The LiquiDex came with a oral syringe thing... and I also got Syringe with needle: 3cc/mL Syringe 23G x 1.5" 25/Pack (was reading around and this seemed like a decent set to get? I got 3 orders of it, so total of 75.

I also need to know how to read these syringes... I am 100% new to needles... on myself.. and don't know the conversions or whatever is needed...

Sorry for all the newb questions, but I just want to make sure I do things correctly and properly as to lessen my chance or harming myself.

oh and if it helps.. I am 6'4 1/2" and about 226lbs. age 25

 

[zedhed]

OK bro I am scoulding you...
You put your cart before the horse man and thats not the best way to start this kind of thing out.
Take a step back and think about this for a minute....
You wanna shoot something into yourself to gain muscle. Ok a lot of us on here are right there with you in this.
BUT
this is some serious shit bro and you MUST educate yourself first which you have not done and thats def not good!
you are talking about messing with your bodies hormone levels, do you have any idea how this can affect your quality of life?
I will do all I can to help you out bro but you need to pay attention and take the brow beating that comes with it.
So its up to you.
IF you want my help then keep posting in here. If not then I dont expect to see you in this section, your call.

Also I wanna say that at least you are asking for help and thats why I responded to you. You did not shoot it first and then tell us that your all fucked up and "help me". Good for you!
So post up and we will continue this.

 

[AaronCDC]

OK bro I am scoulding you...
You put your cart before the horse man and thats not the best way to start this kind of thing out.
Take a step back and think about this for a minute....
You wanna shoot something into yourself to gain muscle. Ok a lot of us on here are right there with you in this.
BUT
this is some serious shit bro and you MUST educate yourself first which you have not done and thats def not good!
you are talking about messing with your bodies hormone levels, do you have any idea how this can affect your quality of life?
I will do all I can to help you out bro but you need to pay attention and take the brow beating that comes with it.
So its up to you.
IF you want my help then keep posting in here. If not then I dont expect to see you in this section, your call.

Also I wanna say that at least you are asking for help and thats why I responded to you. You did not shoot it first and then tell us that your all fucked up and "help me". Good for you!
So post up and we will continue this.

THANK YOU!... that is all I ask.. that is why I came looking for help.. I got the supplies that were recommended, but they didn't tell when to take what.. etc.. etc...

the best i got was this http : / / articles dot muscletalk dot co dot uk / article-beginners-steroids-faq dot aspx

which gave me more information. I just got to make sure I am not f'n myself up, and I definitely don't want "bitch tits" as it gets referred to at times if not properly done, at least from what I have been reading... I work nights and so I have plenty of time to read whatever someone throws at me.

I definitely don't plan to start shooting shit into me until I know what and how to do. Thanks for the reply ^_^

 

[zedhed]

Ok good for you bro. Am glad to hear this.
Got to run now but will be back soon and we will get started.

 

[AaronCDC]

Ok good for you bro. Am glad to hear this.
Got to run now but will be back soon and we will get started.

NP I have to run as well.. but i have my droid phone on me at all times so i may respond from my phone when I am out and about..



and again.. thanks

 

[zedhed]

Ok so lets begin.
So the peeps that told you to do this, this way are not your frndz. They do not have your best interests in mind, so dump them! They obviously dont care if you really fuck yourself up or not, you dont need them in your life IMO.

Now typically I would tell a person of your age to wait. But you already have the gear so IMO thats a waste of time. But in reality 25 is on the young side for AAS. The reason is that your bod is still at its peak for test levels. If you would be willing to wait it really would be better for your health in the long term.

So you have Test Enan 250 and a handfull of 3 ml syringes. Look at your syringes. There will be marks on them going from 1 to 3. That is how much compound you have pulled into the syringe. Mls are the same thing as CCs. So you have Test 250. If you pull up to the 1 mark then you have 250 mls of test in the syringe tube. If you were to pull up to the 3 mark you would have 750 mls/ccs of compound in the syringe.

So for your first cycle of test only, a good amount of test would be 500 mls/week. You have Test Enan so you could shoot it all at once or break it up. I believe that most peeps on here break it up, however I shoot enan all at once (up to 750 mls of T250 in my delts or quads). So its entirely up to you.

Are your needles attached to your syringes?
I need to know this in order to tell you how to draw from the vials etc.

 

[AaronCDC]

yep they all (75 of them) came each individually wrapped with needles attached.. all one time use things.

and ok.. so shooting like on a monday and thursday i guess would be a good idea.. now how long is the cycle your talking about.. i heard 12 weeks.. but ive heard some shorter. doing just test is easier to get down then remembering when to do everything else.

 

[zedhed]

Just test is a smart first cycle bro for a number of reasons. Most important tho is you get to see how your bod reacts to it and your learning with one compound instead of many.

Ok with your needles are attached to the is not the best way to go for this kind of use. The reason is cuz when you push the needle into your vials you are blunting that tip and that makes for a more painful injection. So you can do one of 2 things here. Get more syringes without needles attached. Also get 18 or 20 gauge needles 1" long for these. This will be the setup that you use to draw the test out of the vial.

Or you just use what you have and deal with the pain. If it were me I would get the additional syringes and needles. Much more comfortable.
Tell me what you decide.

Mon and Thur would be just fine.
For your first cycle I would prefer to see you go with 8 weeks. You could run for 10-12 weeks but along with that additional time you also get more and worse side effects, thats why I suggest 8 weeks.

 

[AaronCDC]

Just test is a smart first cycle bro for a number of reasons. Most important tho is you get to see how your bod reacts to it and your learning with one compound instead of many.

Ok with your needles are attached to the is not the best way to go for this kind of use. The reason is cuz when you push the needle into your vials you are blunting that tip and that makes for a more painful injection. So you can do one of 2 things here. Get more syringes without needles attached. Also get 18 or 20 gauge needles 1" long for these. This will be the setup that you use to draw the test out of the vial.

Or you just use what you have and deal with the pain. If it were me I would get the additional syringes and needles. Much more comfortable.
Tell me what you decide.

Mon and Thur would be just fine.
For your first cycle I would prefer to see you go with 8 weeks. You could run for 10-12 weeks but along with that additional time you also get more and worse side effects, thats why I suggest 8 weeks.

You know.. I never thought about that, the whole needle dulling thing... but since I bought 75 of them, I will just deal. I used to do medical studies for extra cash, and not all the "nurses" or well... "techs" were not the best at inserting needles, I learned to deal with the pain, especially with quite a few blood draws, or pokes daily. SO I will just deal with the pain. Not saying you are wrong, just that I spent a lot and right now have my car in the shop getting 2500 of work done to the transmission.... grr..

as for just running test, sounds good to me... is there any specific time during the day or just as long as I keep it on schedule of mon/thu I should be good?

oh and the vile for the test e is 250mg/ml does that mean every ML of the test is 250mg? which would mean a 10ml vile would last me 5 weeks? I never used needles before as stated, and I hate math, so I just want to make sure I do it right.. My fiance was in AP calculus in school, so I have her do my math for me lol.

again... thanks so much for the help and assistance ... I should have came here first.

 

[sanfrandan]

You're a good man Zed...