My revolutionary new idea for biceps..... pls all apply

[Lord_Suston]

i find it a good start, but the only problem is the angle of the movement. in close-grip the angle is suited for tricept contraction in pulldowns you would have to have your elbws forward more and bring you hands back further to really stress your bicepts. Not to say if you up the weight in general on what you p[ull that your arms won't grow. But I find a good to get bicept stimulation is to do seated db curls, both arms at one time so you don't slouch or cheat my using your shoulders.

 

[R CRUSHER]

weighted chin-ups rule! if you can do them without using your lats.

i even do them with the stir-up handles hooked to the pullup bar.

 

[ajtomasi]

vortex........ that Boyer Coe thing sounds virtually impossible, impressive, but impossible, for me anyways.

I've done this, it's supposed to be part of a quick workout that puts an inch on your arms in a week. I didn't get my inch, but I made some nice quick gains of about a 1/4 inch on each arm.

 

[guldukat]

Boo!

I wrote this on Mar. 5th in the DC thread:

I'm also big on incline DB curls. Half-chins to the top of the head, concentrating on pulling purely with your biceps as best you can, is also a real biceps killer...I often did a standard curl, then supersetted that with the half chins in my more Mentzer-style workout. It also has the potential benefit of really loading some tonnage on there. Just be sure to not stretch your lats and shoulder blades out at the top. Keeping the trunk straight also helps.

It will still really engage your back--that's unavoidable--but then again, even things like [upright] dips and reverse-grip benches still strongly engage the pecs, yet they're probably the two top triceps exercises. Why should the biceps be significantly different in the sense that a good movement for them *has* to be totally isolated?

You stole my idea. Boo, hiss!

I'm joking. I think it's a good idea. But I wouldn't use a full range with the things necessarily. I like to pull just to the top and rear of my head with these, trying to keep the elbows as high as possible throughout the exercise. You'll be able to pull a LOT of weight this way; even after doing curls to failure first, I was able to pull my bodyweight with no rest. And the pump...holy hell. It'll make you feel as if you've torn something! Skin-stretching pump means nothing until you've done a superset of curls and half-pulls or chins.

 

[Deepsquat]

I have read the Boyer Coe thing too... He was taught it by Aurther Jones ...Jones said Boyer was the first person to be able to do a 60 second rep , that he had seen, without a bunch of prior training to teach the body to do the slow rep...most give out at less then 10 seconds...
BTW I have read a bicep routine by Albert Beckels ( Bicep peak from hell, put arnold to shame .. he would do closew grip pull downs as his primary bicep exercise ...check the photo http://www.darkwoods.net/bodybuilder/male/bb/gallery/fullsize/beckle02.jpg

 

[collegiateLifter]

i recall that arnold liked close grip chins for his bi's...

 

[Exodus]

WOW THESE ARE SUCH GREAT RESPONSES!!!!!!! THANKS EVERYONE

this idea just hit me so wow im glad to know everyone's positive about it.

Debaser:
i know you train dc style and thats cool, im just not into, yet...... i have been reading though, but i definately agree with you about people having big arms doing no bicep work. check out powerlifters, a lot of them dont train bicep at all and are still jacked in that area.

Lord Suston:
i agree with you about there not being a good maxim contraction without pulling your biceps in front, but i hate that exercise, plus it never works for me. think of the movement being the exact same movement as incline close grip bench press, just with the weight pulling away. you see when i do close grip, its my first exericse for tri's...... i dont get a good "pump" i go heavy, i go few reps and i try to overload them with good weight with good range of motion, so thats what im doing with the pulldowns. the point is to tax the heavy fibers that my biceps can handle. stimulating the most fibers as possible with one exercise.

R crusher:
when it is time for me to switch up exercises, thats what i will switch too, but pulldowns, not pullups.

ajtomasi:
thats dang impressive, anyway you could videotape and get it posted or just mailed to me, i have got to see that.

guldukat
sorry dude, i didnt mean to rip off your idea's......... but hey you know the old saying, "great minds think a like"........ yeah that was chessy but oh well. i go full rom, but i dont stretch out the scapula like in pullups, just let the elbows bend and straighten.

deepsquater & collegiatelifter:
great, thats two of the best peaks i can name off the top of my head, maybe there is hope for guys like me who never thought they wouldnt have one.

i will keep updating everyone on my progress.

thanks again guys.

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