My FIRST cycle REVISED

[genarr3]

you are at around 1300-1350 per week. That is about what my next cycle will be.......And it is my 30th or some shit like that and I am getting ready for the USA in Las Vegas as a heavy weight. It is WAY to much and I agree with Barroom and Madcow, Dump the A-bombs. I will never use them. D-bol is even unnessasary IMO on first cycles. I know you are going to do what you are going to do but why wouldn't you listen to someone who has 22 years weight training experiece and 10 years gear experience and competes at a national level???? Is it because you know more or is it because you think you know more???

Peace

Well said. I analogize this to "Get rich quick" schemes. People that design cycles like this think they're going to become supermen in 10 short weeks. I doesn't work that way, you still have to earn it, even with gear.

 

[Quadsweep]

To reiterate what Quadsweep said - I don't think I've run a cycle as potent as this one and I've done more than a fair amount over the past 10 years.

I think that if you only did the cyp and through in winny during the final weeks (with arim - no GH or A-50) you would be stunned by your results. Gear works fairly well - no need to to throw so much at it.

Oh yeah! I forgot about the GH. I still have never used it. I may for this show but that is after 10 years of use. GEEZ!

 

[metal rail]

No I intend on taking all this advise in especially from the experienced ones and I am thnakful for an imformative board like this I am not lookin gfor a get big quick deal here I have been training for three years and have put 50 lbs on naturally I eat and train hard I am looking to add an additional 10 -15 lbs of quality muscle. If I should add deca in this where should I put it in and for how long and how much? HGH has nothing to do with gear and does not even come into the bad sides or anything it is a simple property and at low does will burn fat and help retain lean muscle wich is why I am running this 8 weeks past my cylce and yes I do agree the anadrol is harsh but I am taking blood tests weeekly and for the first wek so far have had no noticable sides I was going to increase the anadrol to 100 mg for week two and three but sonce no on elikes it at the 50 I am going to leave it there.

 

[DIXIEBOY]

BRO

Check yer PM

 

[mvmaxx]

People that design cycles like this think they're going to become supermen in 10 short weeks. I doesn't work that way, you still have to earn it, even with gear.

Damn! back to the drawing board.

 

[guards]

Didn't we already go over some of this?????



Get rid of the HGH and lower your doses!!!!!!!!!


Too much for a beginner.....some people just don't want to listen to sound advice.

 

[MadCow1]

No I intend on taking all this advise in especially from the experienced ones and I am thnakful for an imformative board like this I am not lookin gfor a get big quick deal here I have been training for three years and have put 50 lbs on naturally I eat and train hard I am looking to add an additional 10 -15 lbs of quality muscle. If I should add deca in this where should I put it in and for how long and how much? HGH has nothing to do with gear and does not even come into the bad sides or anything it is a simple property and at low does will burn fat and help retain lean muscle wich is why I am running this 8 weeks past my cylce and yes I do agree the anadrol is harsh but I am taking blood tests weeekly and for the first wek so far have had no noticable sides I was going to increase the anadrol to 100 mg for week two and three but sonce no on elikes it at the 50 I am going to leave it there.

I think everyone's point is that this is overkill. If one needed all of this as a newbie to get 10-15lbs. no one would use roids. I've gained 10-15 quality pounds off 300mg of deca weekly for 8 weeks taken alone.

I'd say with the anadrol at 100mg and HGH (still move winny to the end as I doubt it's going to mitigate A-50 sides much) - you will gain more in the neighborhood of 30+ lbs. if you eat and train correctly. THe hgh may protect your tendons from the massive stress of gaining too much strength at one time - then again it may not and you'll end up with severe tendonitis. I wouldn't be surprised if you gained more if you don't hurt yourself.

Regardless - everyone who's ever seen or met you will know you as the posterchild for roid use as there will be no denying it. Get ready to complain about stretch marks and buy all new clothes. A-50 will make you a miserable fuck too. I would advise anyone against this regimen for a first cycle. I think you have too much $$.