Morons at the gym (the official thread)...

[silver_shadow]

I'm not talking about warming it up, I'm talking about between working sets and after the workout.

most studdies are bull shit anyway, I read one studdy that said that stretching increases muscle growth. For every studdy there is a "counter studdy", lol.

well, there's dogcrapp training which incorporates deep stretching as a form of hypertrophy enhancement - supposedly stretches and increases the size of the fascia and hence allows for more growth. i'm not sure if dogcrapp got that from a study, nor am i sure how effective that part of his training is, but i know that overall his training is supposed to be effective.

 

[silver_shadow]

Animal was my favorite muppet, I'd have done a double take if I saw him lifting in my gym for sure.

some people are in a world of their own apparently.. I can't count the number of times I've had people walk right next to me when I've been doing deadlifts. I always figured it was a wanna-be alpha male thing, kind of like 'I'll show him he's not so tough by invading his space when he lifts' but now I realize it's just clue-lessness.

i am still going to believe that most of the time it's the wannabe alpha male thing. it happens even as your walking to get a DB or a plate.

 

[treilin]

well, there's dogcrapp training which incorporates deep stretching as a form of hypertrophy enhancement - supposedly stretches and increases the size of the fascia and hence allows for more growth. i'm not sure if dogcrapp got that from a study, nor am i sure how effective that part of his training is, but i know that overall his training is supposed to be effective.

I was thinking the same thing. There is truth to it. For example if you were to keep building your quad muscles and never stretch threm and they will begin to stay in a state of contraction and you will lose the flexibility and rebound effect from them. In the mean time because your Quads are contracted your hamstring is overly stretched. Well if you don't stretch the quads to there normal tonus then you are not only keeping your hamstring in an overly eccentric state but you are also not getting the full range of motion with the quad muscle to build it further.... There is a state of balance that one needs to keep while building muscle. If not muscles are having a tug of war and pretty soon one will win and then you will obtain an injury of some sort. I'm a massage therapist so I've seen this numerous times. Stack onto that someone that sits all day. While sitting the hamstring is eccentric, quads are shortened. So you are keeping the muscles in a chronic shortening and lengthening pattern.

 

[GSP]

A pair of guys at my gym on Wed were doing the old Bench/Row tag team exercise. Nothing abnormal about that as it seems like a fairly standard exercise. But after a few pyramiding sets, one guy went looking for another 25 lb. plate. It so happened the closest one was on 1 of the 2 squat racks, one had my wife in the middle of a set and the other had a guy doing squats with 3 plates on each side. The racks are about 4 feet apart, and the guy slipped between both lifters to reach the weight plates. As if that wasn't enough, he waited for the guy with 3 plates to finish a rep and then sticks the plate in his face to ask him if he was using it.

I think he actually thought he was being courteous.

 

[mm107]

I also encountered a MORON AT THE GYM. Some BIGGG Dude is at the font counter. Hes in his 40's atleast Maybe 50. Hes sitting there talking to the counter guy and the counter guy is like listen to this guy he knows his stuff.

So they guy orders a redline warm, because he says the ice cold kills digestive enzymes in the stomach(this is the only part that kinda made him believable, but i still dont know the truth behind this). Then he goes on saying 6meals is Bullshit. Its unreasonable, unneccessary and a waste of food and money. Then he goes into nutrition, and says i want to see 1 person who has lost weight and bulked up w/ excess protein and 6 meals a day. Im laughing the whole time, so he prob thinks ima "normal" gym goer. So he asks seriously if i knew anyone who ate 6 times a day high protein and made good gains. I REPLIED "ME". Conversation ended. LOL. There was no WAY this dude was gonna argue with me, all i would have to say is YO, LOOK AT ME, if u think eating like i do doesnt work, then why the fuck was I FAT my entire LIFE untill i learned nutrtion. DUMBASSES, worst part he is HUGE, SO ALOT OF PEOPLE PRob belive his bullshit.

 

[djeclipse]

I was thinking the same thing. There is truth to it. For example if you were to keep building your quad muscles and never stretch threm and they will begin to stay in a state of contraction and you will lose the flexibility and rebound effect from them. In the mean time because your Quads are contracted your hamstring is overly stretched. Well if you don't stretch the quads to there normal tonus then you are not only keeping your hamstring in an overly eccentric state but you are also not getting the full range of motion with the quad muscle to build it further.... There is a state of balance that one needs to keep while building muscle. If not muscles are having a tug of war and pretty soon one will win and then you will obtain an injury of some sort. I'm a massage therapist so I've seen this numerous times. Stack onto that someone that sits all day. While sitting the hamstring is eccentric, quads are shortened. So you are keeping the muscles in a chronic shortening and lengthening pattern.

In conclusion... stretching = GOOD.

 

[blut wump]

I think it's reckoned that stretching before working out is bad, after is good. I sometimes do a little bit during as a kind of compromise.

 

[Jim Ouini]

I foam roll and active stretch before, static stretch after, or at least I try too /shrug

 

[treilin]

I think it's reckoned that stretching before working out is bad, after is good. I sometimes do a little bit during as a kind of compromise.

Exactly! Only stretch a warm muscle.... Do a 5 minute warm up to get the blood flowing and then do a warm up set and then jump into your work-out. After your work-out stretch.

 

[djeclipse]

Exactly! Only stretch a warm muscle.... Do a 5 minute warm up to get the blood flowing and then do a warm up set and then jump into your work-out. After your work-out stretch.

ya, it is sad but when I play soccer most of the guys stretch before they do any running or any warm ups. I tell them to do some jogging to get warmed up and then stretch but they never listen.