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Snurd Nurdler
Oh man you've gone beyond reason with this.This topic can be dragged out endlesslly, and I know you see this.First off let's start with the fact that you were the aggressor,in calling me stupid for having my own opinion.And school is great thanx for asking,I'm acing my class.
God I don't even know where to begin with your response.You have more than shown me that you can not see talent,creativity,uniqueness,not to mention ungodlly stamina,within drummers anywhere.
everyone of your comment deserve a response,but this one takes the cake.
You don't care or you don't know? You don't know. I UNDERSTAND if you're not into jazz and that way also not into jazz players. That I do understand. I also understand that you don't know anything about music, playing, music theory, notes, etc. And that explains a lot.
Within your 22 years of GUITAR playing,not drums,you do recognize that within my 13 years of trained drumming I would have learned everything and more that you have on this list.I was not trained in deathmetal,nor did I know of it's existance until many years later.I was trained is the arts of percussion a.k.a drums for the shallow minded such as yourself.Every day of every year of my 13 years was a learning experience,gathering as much information about my instrument as possible.I have performed many jazz shows,marching band shows,orchestra concerts,and each were a walk in the park.So easy in fact that I could just step in without knowing the piece performed.Now once my training ended,and all was in my hands,I was still hungry for challenge.I was set loose to use my aquired talents for however I chose.I had so many ways I could have gone,enough knowledge to pursue any style,any realm of the music world.In the years to follow,I listened to many styles,and various jazz musicians(weckle,chambers,donati).But the only thing that caught,and kept my attention was the intriquet,ever changing,twisting,gut wrenching,elaborate style of deathmetal drummers.The first cd I heard blew me straight out of the water.The drummer sean rheinert was very jazzy in style,yet unrelenting in his aggressive bomb- baredment of sounds.He was very much in time,every note accounted for,so don't for a second think that we don't know timing.This music was so precise,that it made the hair on my arms stand straight on end,I never had heard anything so spectacular on drums ever.So my point with this is(if you could'nt catch it),that I was well roundedlly trained for any style I chose.And if I were looking for the biggest challenge of my life,I would soon choose the path I now walk.
I do understand that if you were listening to the wrong drummers,you would have a bad taste in your mouth.Same with saying I don't recognize your favorite drummers.Don't let one bad apple spoil the bunch for you,believe me as a drummer with knowledge on the subject,deathmetal drummer are some of the best this planet has to offer.
quote: I can name few Scandinavian deathmetal drummers to you: Harri Karmala, Stefan Andersson and Seppo "Hepo" Ikola. They are better drummers than those deathmetal drummers you named (or that's what the stupid deathmetal fans here say).
Perkele how can you possiblly say these guys are better than the ones I mention when in fact YOU'VE NEVER HEARD of the drummers I mentioned???
qoute:Btw, who set the standards on double bass drumming? Answer: Jazz legend Louis Bellson. He was the first drummer to succesfully utilize double bass drums. Toto's Simon Phillips is concidered to be the master of double bass drumming.
you are absolutelly right about loius belson,congradulations!He was the pioneer of double bass, and I look up to him in more ways than one.But if you wanted to talk about pioneers,you should have started a "pioneers of music " thread.
And about simon phillips, where the hell did you get this malarky from,did you make this up?If you actually read MD,you would know that they hold yearly drum compititions to find the latest,and best at double bass,hand technique,and overall drumming abilities.Simon phillips is no longer in the running.
God I don't even know where to begin with your response.You have more than shown me that you can not see talent,creativity,uniqueness,not to mention ungodlly stamina,within drummers anywhere.
everyone of your comment deserve a response,but this one takes the cake.
You don't care or you don't know? You don't know. I UNDERSTAND if you're not into jazz and that way also not into jazz players. That I do understand. I also understand that you don't know anything about music, playing, music theory, notes, etc. And that explains a lot.
Within your 22 years of GUITAR playing,not drums,you do recognize that within my 13 years of trained drumming I would have learned everything and more that you have on this list.I was not trained in deathmetal,nor did I know of it's existance until many years later.I was trained is the arts of percussion a.k.a drums for the shallow minded such as yourself.Every day of every year of my 13 years was a learning experience,gathering as much information about my instrument as possible.I have performed many jazz shows,marching band shows,orchestra concerts,and each were a walk in the park.So easy in fact that I could just step in without knowing the piece performed.Now once my training ended,and all was in my hands,I was still hungry for challenge.I was set loose to use my aquired talents for however I chose.I had so many ways I could have gone,enough knowledge to pursue any style,any realm of the music world.In the years to follow,I listened to many styles,and various jazz musicians(weckle,chambers,donati).But the only thing that caught,and kept my attention was the intriquet,ever changing,twisting,gut wrenching,elaborate style of deathmetal drummers.The first cd I heard blew me straight out of the water.The drummer sean rheinert was very jazzy in style,yet unrelenting in his aggressive bomb- baredment of sounds.He was very much in time,every note accounted for,so don't for a second think that we don't know timing.This music was so precise,that it made the hair on my arms stand straight on end,I never had heard anything so spectacular on drums ever.So my point with this is(if you could'nt catch it),that I was well roundedlly trained for any style I chose.And if I were looking for the biggest challenge of my life,I would soon choose the path I now walk.
I do understand that if you were listening to the wrong drummers,you would have a bad taste in your mouth.Same with saying I don't recognize your favorite drummers.Don't let one bad apple spoil the bunch for you,believe me as a drummer with knowledge on the subject,deathmetal drummer are some of the best this planet has to offer.
quote: I can name few Scandinavian deathmetal drummers to you: Harri Karmala, Stefan Andersson and Seppo "Hepo" Ikola. They are better drummers than those deathmetal drummers you named (or that's what the stupid deathmetal fans here say).
Perkele how can you possiblly say these guys are better than the ones I mention when in fact YOU'VE NEVER HEARD of the drummers I mentioned???
qoute:Btw, who set the standards on double bass drumming? Answer: Jazz legend Louis Bellson. He was the first drummer to succesfully utilize double bass drums. Toto's Simon Phillips is concidered to be the master of double bass drumming.
you are absolutelly right about loius belson,congradulations!He was the pioneer of double bass, and I look up to him in more ways than one.But if you wanted to talk about pioneers,you should have started a "pioneers of music " thread.
And about simon phillips, where the hell did you get this malarky from,did you make this up?If you actually read MD,you would know that they hold yearly drum compititions to find the latest,and best at double bass,hand technique,and overall drumming abilities.Simon phillips is no longer in the running.
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