sermon_of_mockery said:
Listen to me Beavis. I can't help you if you're so fucking stupid to understand these things. Maybe you're just too young to understand and maybe you just mature slower than other people at your age. Btw, did you're school go well?
"who said anything about voting you goon."
Who said anything about voting? Me of course you fucking idiot! Can't you read? The point I made, and what you still haven't understand, is that those who did vote do know more about drumming and about drummers than me and you. That's the kind of magazine that you don't read unless you're a drummer or interested of drumming and music. So those people did vote those guys there and I don't think that they would have vote bad drummers if there would have been better guys to choose from. OK?
If deathmetal drummer would be so good that he should be in MD's TOP25 then he would have been voted there. PERIOD!
If you're good if enough then people will know about you and definitely give their vote to you. No matter how undergroud music you play. The word will spread, you know. Btw, Jazz is more underground than metal music these days.
"I was really looking forward to your explanation on the reason drummers that don't reach your expectations were reviewed in modern drummer.Maybe you'll get back to me on this one?"
What? I don't understand you? Help me out? Do you wanna know why MD writes about drummers like Tommy Lee? Can't they write about him, and why? What's your point? This is so out of topic. More about this later......
"First of all,do you think that every person that listens to another style of music besides jazz is an "idiot",I sure as fuck hope not."
Definitely not! Only few deathmetal and punk fans here and there. One is you.
"And why the fuck would I care about drummers that don't present any challenge to pursue?"
That's just the biggest crap talk in history my dear idiot friend and deep down in your heart you know it too. Can't add more to that. LOL!
"I don't care for those drummers,and therefore I don't know much more than the fact that they are'nt that good.That's all I need to know when it come to them."
You don't care or you don't know? You don't know. I
UNDERSTAND if you're not into jazz and that way also not into jazz players. That I do understand. I also understand that you don't know anything about music, playing, music theory, notes, etc. And that explains a lot.
"If your such a great drummer,then why don't you know about those jazz drummers?'
Answer is,they are unable to keep my attention with that boring, old-school music,that has zero appeal what-so -ever.So now that I've answered your questions,why don't you answer mine."
So you don't think that album full of fast double bass drumming ain't boring? The fact is that jazz is too difficult music for you to understand (and that's why "boring"), but don't worry friend cause you're not the only one. There are many others. Neil Peart isn't that into jazz but the technical virtuosity they have is something that he admires a lot. The thing that proves you're stupid (as far music is concerned) is the fact you keep on pushing that old-school and oldies stuff when you talk about jazz. So doesn't it mean that in 2022 you're not interested of metal anymore cause it's the old-school music?
The most difficult jazz ain't that much older than metal music my friend. Heavy metal pioneer Black Sabbath started in 1977 and Miles Davis's landmark "Bitches Brew" album came later and Jazz fusion was born.
"Why would modern drummer review drummers that you feel don't deserve it?"
You just can't read or actually understand what you read. I've never said that those guys (Tommy Lee, Matt Sorum etc.) don't deserve to be in the pages of MD mag. Where did you get that idea? They're just not good enough to be voted for example in TOP25 all time drummers list. OK? I hope you did understand now.
"Possible due to the fact that you are so closed off from the real music world."
If you think that deathmetal is a part or the only part of the real music world then you can live freely in your bubble. End of story. Also if you think that I only listen just jazz then you've again mistakes badly. The music styles I don't listen are trash/death/speed/etc. metal, punk, tekno/dance and that's about it. Everything else goes, from hardrock to reggea and from tango to Polish folk music. How about you? Btw, the most "heaviest" songs I like are Metallica's "Enter Sandman" and Toto's "Kingdom Of Desire".
"Also if you are such the drumming expert,would you so kindlly tell me about Sean rhienert,alex marquez,or dave culross?"
If the most famous and the respected drummers like Colauita, Gadd and Williams doesn't say anything to you then how the hell should guys like Sean "Who?" Rhienert, Alex "Another who?" Marquez and Dave "They don't know me either" Culross say anything to me? I can name few Scandinavian deathmetal drummers to you: Harri Karmala, Stefan Andersson and Seppo "Hepo" Ikola. They are better drummers than those deathmetal drummers you named (or that's what the stupid deathmetal fans here say). Why haven't you heard about those guys? Btw, who set the standards on double bass drumming? Answer: Jazz legend Louis Bellson. He was the first drummer to succesfully utilize double bass drums. Toto's Simon Phillips is concidered to be the master of double bass drumming. He don't play that simple 8th. or 16th. note shit that deathmetal drummers do play. Simon has played triplets with his right feet and 8ths. with his left feet AT THE SAME TIME in fast tempo and that's beyond anything that's ever been played with double bass drums. Vinnie Colauita is the king of odd meters. He's able to strecth and go beyond the typical rhythmic stuff that most great drummers play. Steve Gadd has recorded some of the most important and innovative tracks of all time, with an astonishingly wide range of artists. No one has and no one can play as many styles as he cans. There's few reasons why those guys are there and not those that you mentioned.
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