lost alot more of my gains this cycle

[Gamer2Be08]

I am 185 and people say that I have to cut when they see pics.

when you are 6 feet you have a lot more mass to hold. I am only 5 6.. the OP is an inch taller.

I dont think he is too small for steroids, but I do think he is young and should have more experience.. also quick gains from orals are harder to keep than slow steady gains of injectables. the body doesn't like to carry too much muscle and will do its best to shed it when its put on fast.

want slow and steady gains that are easier to keep? go with primo for 10 weeks.

Agree 100%

 

[C.K.]

I'm also using that and I think it's called lean fx for a reason I'm getting so shredded into pct I thought it may be the psyto though either way I'm loving it haven't lost any strength although I am smaller and dryer

 

[Gamer2Be08]

I'm also using that and I think it's called lean fx for a reason I'm getting so shredded into pct I thought it may be the psyto though either way I'm loving it haven't lost any strength although I am smaller and dryer

I tried that. didnt sleep until I stopped taking the pills. highly catabolic.

 

[stevesmi]

^^^ Gammer is right... stims are catabolic, they speed up your metabolism.. they will wipe you out quick, you will notice strength losses drastically. and they will wreck your sleeping patterns. so use them sparingly if you are preparing for a shoot or a contest etc. but i wouldn't use them generally.

 

[die faster]

no its DS lean xtreme. no stims and my strength has still been going up

 

[stevesmi]

^^^ then you should be good bro

 

[die faster]

steve ill give a longer cycle a run next time. so many people are against short oral runs, but ive made great gains in the past, and recovered very smoothly. and need2 had a long write up somewhere about muscle gains being muscle gains no matter how long it took. but maybe being closer to my max, my body is fighting even harder to drop the extra weight like you said.

 

[stevesmi]

^^^i think one of the good things about short oral cycles is they don't shut down your HPTA very much, so its easy to recover from. I actually would advocate to people in their 20's who juice to run 1 oral cycle and 1 longer injectable cycle per year. this way they can preserve their HPTA.

I'm totally against cycles that are longer than 13 weeks... I don't like to see people run long cycles and then have to go on HRT for life

 

[die faster]

totally agree steve, even the shut down from dieselbolan alone in 4 weeks is no joke. cant imagine how guys are comfortable running heavy cycles for 16 weeks.

but what should i do about my situation? im trying to hold onto all my gains and dont see myself not being able to maintain at least 195. am i going to run into this problem everytime i cycle??

 

[C.K.]

diesal is a nandro if I'm correct so that's why it shuts you down hard I'm running dost with my beast and kata just as a precaution