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Let's Lose This Myth Once And For All!!!

cboogsrun said:
so your saying with a half life of 10 days that enanthate will be as strong week 1 as week 6? Doesn't add up. Possibly after 20 days it will maintain the same strength. Maybe I'm remedial but I know how to add stubtract multiply and divide.
You'll have to bear w/ him. He has trouble communicating his thoughs into writing.
They seem to constantly contradict themselves.
Just wait around and he'll get to it.
And NM, me and SS are the only people you are pissing off around here?
Doesn't look that way to me.
 
worldclass: Have you got a point to make besides criticism about nothing?

nisser: I am not self proclaimed since I have credentials. What are yours? I also am not admittedly an expert in science. Never said I was, so you're wrong there too. This is a seperate issue. You don't need to be an expert in nautical engeneering to know if you have a hole in your boat.

Solidspine: You know nothing of my work, nor do you offer any contrarian theories of your own. You just complain. It's almost as if you resent having to think beyond your narrow framework. Of course, you will always find someone with an equally narrow point of view to agree with you. I guess it makes you all feel bigger if you stick together.

I welcome other perspectives. And I stand by my statements because they are correct. I have yet to hear any evididence to the contrary, though there have been some adendums that have been insightful. But not from any of you. I have, however, heard a lot of whining about a thread none of you can seem to stop paying attention to.


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Everybody knows all about your work, that’s all you do is talk about how wonderful you are, when you are not arguing over something, as mindless and as unimportant as this meaningless thread you started. And it is one of the most meaningless threads I have seen in the past 8 or 10 years I have been on this board.

You are not a body builder, go some where they want you, maybe the roid store.


It is very tiresome,

You argue, criticize, brag and say nothing constructive, you treat everyone like there experience and there lives are worthless,

but everything you have to say should be etched in stone. Why,

Stop your arguing and try, I know it is difficult but try to say one thing constructive, on any thread, even an important thread, just try it, you might feel better.

I don’t think you can do it, I don’t think you have the experience, I don’t believe you know what F body building is all about,

Just be cause you read some book or met some body builder does not make you an expert,

Go to your moms house tomorrow, sit in your office an prove me wrong,

Be constructive, I will say it again, I don’t think you could even if you wanted
 
Blood levels are peaked within a day or two...the initial post is totally correct. The ester mostly delays the time that it stays with you (active), not the time that it takes to peak.

The Genomic effects occur over the first maybe 24 hours or so and continue, while the non-genomic effects can occur immediately or over the course of time.

As for "feeling" effects, that's subjective, and not really...well, accurately quantifiable in this regard.
 
solidspine said:
Everybody knows all about your work, that’s all you do is talk about how wonderful you are, when you are not arguing over something, as mindless and as unimportant as this meaningless thread you started. And it is one of the most meaningless threads I have seen in the past 8 or 10 years I have been on this board.
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YET YOU CAN'T SEEM TO KEEP COMING ON AND DISRUPTING IT. HOW OLD ARE YOU?


You are not a body builder, go some where they want you, maybe the roid store.

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YEAH, REAL BODYBUILDERS DO TWO GRAMS OF GEAR A WEEK LIKE YOU, RIGHT? IF NOT, THEY'RE NOT SERIOUS. DUMBASS.

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It is very tiresome,

You argue, criticize, brag and say nothing constructive, you treat everyone like there experience and there lives are worthless,


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I PREFER TO TREAT PEOPLE WITH RESPECT. MAYBE YOU'RE UPSET BECAUSE YOU THINK YOUR LIFE IS WORTHLESS BUT YOU SHOULDN'T PROJECT THAT ON OTHERS.


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but everything you have to say should be etched in stone. Why,

Stop your arguing and try, I know it is difficult but try to say one thing constructive, on any thread, even an important thread, just try it, you might feel better.

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HOW ABOUT "SHUT UP."


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I don’t think you can do it, I don’t think you have the experience, I don’t believe you know what F body building is all about,


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LET ME GUESS, IT'S ABOUT BEING 57 YEARS OLD AND TRYING TO GAIN 40 POUNDS IN THREE MONTHS WITH ENOUGH GEAR TO KILL A HORSE. OOH, YOU'RE SUCH A REAL BODYBUILDER.


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Just be cause you read some book or met some body builder does not make you an expert,

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WHAT? DUDE, I WROTE TWO BOOKS, PLUS HUNDREDS OF ARTICLES AND KNOW AND HAVE WORKED WITH SOME OF THE TOP PEOPLE IN THE INDUSTRY. I GET IT NOW. YOU'RE CONFUSING ME WITH SOME OF THE OTHER IDIOTS LIKE YOURSELF WHO PRETEND THEY ARE A SOMEBODY. YOU DON'T HAVE TO AGREE WITH ME BUT TRY TO GET YOUR FACTS STAIGHT.

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Go to your moms house tomorrow, sit in your office an prove me wrong,


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THAT SENTENCE DOESN'T EVEN MAKE SENSE.


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Be constructive, I will say it again, I don’t think you could even if you wanted

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YOU WANT TO HEAR SOMETHING CONSTRUCTIVE? NEVER REPRODUCE.

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Techinically I suppose you can say that they kick in immediately on a molecular level if you were to wait a day and measure levels... however does this registration of the AAS by the human body equate into body changes or improved gym performance right away? That is subjective. Some people will say no as they don't see benefits until week two or three. Some people will say yes. OF course some of the ones saying yes really are not seeing the gym benefits right away from the AAS but rather from the just the idea of "being own" (newbies.)
 
AAP said:
Techinically I suppose you can say that they kick in immediately on a molecular level if you were to wait a day and measure levels... however does this registration of the AAS by the human body equate into body changes or improved gym performance right away? That is subjective. Some people will say no as they don't see benefits until week two or three. Some people will say yes. OF course some of the ones saying yes really are not seeing the gym benefits right away from the AAS but rather from the just the idea of "being own" (newbies.)


That's true too.
 
Although I have to admit that if I was on 3 weeks and it hadn't kicked in yet... I would be wondering if my shit was fake.
 
Day: Plasma Levels of injected hormone Peak
(Regardless of Ester or lack therof)

Following days:
Ester (or lack therof) determines the rate of decline

Period.
 
Blood levels are peaked within a day or two...the initial post is totally correct. The ester mostly delays the time that it stays with you (active), not the time that it takes to peak.

The Genomic effects occur over the first maybe 24 hours or so and continue, while the non-genomic effects can occur immediately or over the course of time.




As for "feeling" effects, that's subjective, and not really...well, accurately quantifiable in this regard.

How you look is also well subjective and not really well, accurately quantifiable in this regard,


Just coincidentally the overwhelming single most important aspect of body building. Not how much test is in your system or if it is there on day 2 or day 2.5 or the same day as your Fina or ¼ of a day after the day you inject your 2nd deca shot.

Guess what Ain,t important, almost irrelevant at least to 99% of the body builders in the world.

Do you think we do this because we are trying to improve our health?

No one wants to intentionally abuse, hurt or damage them selves, but we all come damm close on a regular basis,

Fina, Dnp, T3, HCG, Clen --- did you think we take these products to improve our health,


I hate to be the one to break it to you and the boy from Montana, but body building is about appearance

sorry to shake your world, but as some sage man said (Plagiarized )

“Facts are facts” or translated from NM jargon to English,,, ah duh?
 
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