Lean mass before AAS

[Brapbrap07]

Here is a cool link to see where you would be at naturally before AAS


http://www.weightrainer.net/bodypred.html

I'm currently going to be at 220.5lb 10% bf soon but my calculated natural limit is 231 at that bf.
I'm 5'9 currently with a large frame oddly enough. So I'm curious if I'm starting too early to hit a Test E & dbol cycle when I have 10.5lbs of solid muscle to go.


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[Brapbrap07]

Oops 229 bulked mass..

Current stats on left side

49inch to 54 for chest
14in to 15 for forearms
18in to 18.8 for biceps
29in to 29.1 for quads
17in to 19.5 for calves

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[2tickets]

Here is a cool link to see where you would be at naturally before AAS


http://www.weightrainer.net/bodypred.html

I'm currently going to be at 220.5lb 10% bf soon but my calculated natural limit is 231 at that bf.
I'm 5'9 currently with a large frame oddly enough. So I'm curious if I'm starting too early to hit a Test E & dbol cycle when I have 10.5lbs of solid muscle to go.


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Thats interesting......apparently i could gain another 15lbs before i hit my natural max but my quads are already 3" bigger than the estimated max, my neck 1" bigger and my biceps only 0.5" smaller than the estimated max.

Interesting.

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[Brapbrap07]

Maybe I should of added some aas stack outline, then people would actually respond.. Always funny to see people jump to the AAS section but neglect the most important place NUTRITION!

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[bonacris]

If your already 220lbs at 5'9 @ 10% bf youre already miles ahead of most people who ask for advice and even people who have run number cycles..

I seen no problem with you doing a cycle as is.

What is your age though

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[Brapbrap07]

I'm 26. Ill be 27 next month

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[RickRock13]

If people waited until they were at their genetic limit to juice, 90% or more wouldn't ever get there. Genetic limit is not as simple as a formula either.

A lot of guys that have been juicing for years aren't even at genetic limit. The main thing is just building a good base before starting, knowing the right way to train and diet, doing the right research, and being old enough. Don't overcomplicate things with a formula.

 

[Brapbrap07]

You got a point there. I'm just looking at all the angles before I dive in.

I still need to get a revamp of a diet on a cycle.
Workout intensity on cycle.
Dosage for my first cycle in 6yrs including pct
Should i do a 12 or 16week cycle

I've taken about 4 years off from lifting and now I'm almost 6months back in it again. But this time I've been doing it right by incorporating more fats less carbs more organic food/ protein as well as cutting out gluten. I work out 5-6 days a week incorporating all my muscle groups (never skip leg day).

But as you've said most people roid way before their maximum limit is even reached. Just looking for the serious bodybuilders perspective.




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[bonacris]

To be honest its up to you if you want to hold off or not.. your stats are great so you clearly know how to train and diet.

If you want help with a proposed cycle the guys here will definitely help you

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[Brapbrap07]

Appreciate it man. I'm still two months out at the earliest. But starting around dec 1st or so would probably be a bad idea because of holiday travel. Best bet is to start the new year going hulk status. Possibly get 6-8% by then.... well that leaves plenty of room to research lol..

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