Knee Surgery Recovery

[jakeross1313]

Hey All, I am new to this board. My question is, I had knee surgery 6 months ago (ACL reconstruction). I have followed Rehab to the Letter and have listened to my doctors recommendations. I am still behind in my recovery. My doctor says I should be a lot more structurally intact than I am. I am a soldier in the Army and would like to be able join my brothers in their activities. Could anyone recommend anything. I should also mention I have extremely sensitive skin and am prone to breakouts so I need to beware of what I take due to the side effects.

Vitals,

Height 69 inches (5'9")
Weight 178 LBS
Bdy Ft 10%
Exper 6 years of training
Age 26
Diet 4 meals a day (Chow hall schedule)

Thanks for any info availiable

 

[i am what i am]

Bro. I have torn my acl, mcl, and miniscus when i was 18. Took 6 months and it was like it never happened. That was until I tore it again being stupid and wihtout a brace 2 years later. I'm assuming your asking for AS. Best thing for you right now would be HGH.

 

[ass_face]

I think EQ, Deca or Primo would be good as all have positive collagen producing elements to them and will aid in your knee recovery. I do not think the military tests for steroids, so I am sure any of these would help...

On a side note... I know you love your brothers at arms, but I would hope you would try to avoid fighting in that idiotic war. I was a Bush supporter at one time, and it is clear to me that this war was created to fill the pockets of all of his cronies. It is ashame that young men are used by these tyrants, for such evil purposes.

 

[jakeross1313]

I have used over the counter HGH, sublingual spray to no help. I have also used Andro. Basically I have tried everything from GNC and Vitamin World and I have not had any success. Like I said, I am 6 months out and I still can barely run. According to Army protocol, I should be almost completely recovered. What is the difference between the HGH I was trying and anything listed here?

 

[Kingwinny]

low doses of var, primo or eq, and test

you don't want anything that gives you water retention because it will allow you to lift more weight than your tendons are ready for.

ive had an ACL and MCL operation on seperate occasions. what a nightmare.

 

[Big_Joe]

On a side note... I know you love your brothers at arms, but I would hope you would try to avoid fighting in that idiotic war. I was a Bush supporter at one time, and it is clear to me that this war was created to fill the pockets of all of his cronies. It is ashame that young men are used by these tyrants, for such evil purposes.

And this is from a guy named Ass Face. Stupid Butthead would be more like it.

 

[jakeross1313]

I don't care about anyone's politics! I have been to war and am not looking to go back, but right now I am not able to even consider it because of my knee. I love my brothers and if they go and I don't, I couldn't stand it if something happened to one of them when I could have prevented it ( I am a medic, so I take care of my guys). So no bullsh**, I need to know how I can get back in the game

 

[caligirl]

Hey All, I am new to this board. My question is, I had knee surgery 6 months ago (ACL reconstruction). I have followed Rehab to the Letter and have listened to my doctors recommendations. I am still behind in my recovery. My doctor says I should be a lot more structurally intact than I am. I am a soldier in the Army and would like to be able join my brothers in their activities. Could anyone recommend anything. I should also mention I have extremely sensitive skin and am prone to breakouts so I need to beware of what I take due to the side effects.

Vitals,

Height 69 inches (5'9")
Weight 178 LBS
Bdy Ft 10%
Exper 6 years of training
Age 26
Diet 4 meals a day (Chow hall schedule)

Thanks for any info availiable

You just might need more time. 6 months is a guideline. Everyone is different.

 

[jakeross1313]

You just might need more time. 6 months is a guideline. Everyone is different.

I agree 6 months is a guideline, but I am no where close to where I am supposed to be in regards to structural integrity. My new ligament has not affixed itself like it is supposed to. I have done everything that the doctors have told me, I am just a slow healer and would like some pharmaceutical help. It is killing me to be out this long.

 

[jmt24]

what about a low dose of test and deca.
1-16 200mg test e
1-14 200mg deca
1-pct 25-50mg ed proviron

im not sure how much pct you need with a cycle like this. 2 weeks after last test shot, maybe 40mg noval for 7 days and then 20mg for 2-3 weeks.

 

[axe3]

I was a competitive athlete that represented our country in 2 diff sports. I had to get my knee done. For rehab I did 12 months of HGH @ 3-4 iu/day 5 on 2 off. I also did a 15 week run of eq @ 600mg/wk. My docs and PT's were completely blown away by my recovery. Mine was not an acl...I had torn the cartlidge off down to the bone under my kneecap and they had to do a procedure called microfracture in order to stimulate new growth.

 

[danymal04]

I tore my acl last september and had surgery early october. I have never used any aas yet except creatine and some no2 and I was running 3 months and 3 weeks outta surgery. My docter and PT were very suprised at how far I've came and how fast I'd came. When Jerry Rice tore his acl, he was back catching touchdowns at 3 months. Just be strong mentally because all injurys are more mental than anything else. My motivation is a friend of mine that has lung cancer, and I'm were sittin here worryin about an ACL.... come on now, just do your shit, dont be a bitch and you'll be back. Get some good creatine and read up on acl injurys if nobody is around you to inform you the best way of coming back. Just my 2cc... Good Luck

 

[ass_face]

And this is from a guy named Ass Face. Stupid Butthead would be more like it.

Yes, I explain lucidly why the war is a waste and you respond with mindless drivel. If you can make a case for this war, then maybe I can be persuaded. The bottom line is all the mass graves and bullshit that Saddam has done were caused because we betrayed the Kurds in the Desert Storm. Asking them to rise up and when they did we bailed on them. Saddam should have been eliminated 14 years ago, but powers knew that there would be a lot of money to be made in the future by leaving him in power.

Anyway, If my brother was in Iraq I would want to be there too. Just to protect him... fuck the objective, because it is bullshit propaganda anyway.

 

[steelmass]

Deca for joints, throw in some test too...

 

[Swtrue]

I tore my acl last september and had surgery early october. I have never used any aas yet except creatine and some no2 and I was running 3 months and 3 weeks outta surgery. My docter and PT were very suprised at how far I've came and how fast I'd came. When Jerry Rice tore his acl, he was back catching touchdowns at 3 months. Just be strong mentally because all injurys are more mental than anything else. My motivation is a friend of mine that has lung cancer, and I'm were sittin here worryin about an ACL.... come on now, just do your shit, dont be a bitch and you'll be back. Get some good creatine and read up on acl injurys if nobody is around you to inform you the best way of coming back. Just my 2cc... Good Luck

This is very good advise. I have had both knees done. My right took longer to recover than my left, but AS isn't your answer. Determination and hard work will get you the results you are looking for. Running in a pool is a great exercise with no impact, leg extentions with high reps, lunges when you are able for stabilizers. Add weight as you get stronger. Good Luck.

 

[therockrt72]

from what i hear deca is a great joint lubricant

 

[drrman]

bro, been there, had the same surgery, along with wrist reconstruction and a foot reconstruction(at different times).....I took HGH post surgery with the knee and foot surgeries and my doctor did tell me my recovery was much quicker than normal, i personally don't think the deca "lubrication" will benefit you because you are basically trying to strengthen the ligament graft they put in your knee and make it as strong as a real ligament which takes lots of time....if you can afford it, go for the HGH, i know it works bro

 

[drrman]

I have used over the counter HGH, sublingual spray to no help. I have also used Andro. Basically I have tried everything from GNC and Vitamin World and I have not had any success. Like I said, I am 6 months out and I still can barely run. According to Army protocol, I should be almost completely recovered. What is the difference between the HGH I was trying and anything listed here?

first off the shit you were using is NOT NOT NOT NOT HGH, its is bullshit sublingual spray the market to people who will buy it, its JUNK, you need a REAL injectable HGH bro

 

[cat_fish]

Dude,

IMHO the best thing for you to do is let it heal naturally. If you start doing suppliments your going to push yourself harder than you normally would and your going to tear that bad boy all over and again than you'll really be screwed.

 

[caligirl]

Dude,

IMHO the best thing for you to do is let it heal naturally. If you start doing suppliments your going to push yourself harder than you normally would and your going to tear that bad boy all over and again than you'll really be screwed.

Thats the best advice yet.
I have had TWO ACL reconstructions and a Carticel Cartilige transplant. Talk about fucked up knees, 8 surgeries total to fix them. Take your time and be patient. If your ligament has not affixed itself properly, you may be in for some long term problems. I'd have a long sitdown discussion with your MD and ask what your options are, ie giong back in and anchoring the sucker back in place. What did you replace it with? patella, hamstring tendionosis, cadaver? They each have their own set of issues with rehab and speed of recovery.
If you push yourself too hard, you can end up with additional injuries. An ACL is a drop in the bucket compared to cartilige injuries, they usually last a lifetime and take FOREVER to heal, I was out 2 whole years on my Carticel Transplant. I'm a professional athlete myself, so i can understand your chomping at the bit to get back to your boys, but you have to help yourself first. Hey, at least you have a place to sleep, and income while your on the mend........ some people don't have that luxury. Good luck.