Karma inflation... How to fix it???

[blut wump]

23, 392, 11,654, 98,909, 1,298,455.... what's the difference? The numbers in themselves have no meaning.

23 karma points, 392 karma points, ... etc. has meaning -- it has a unit attached to it.

The only value of this virtual unit used here is its relativity (simplifying and leaving out store and other issues) to others that possess these units.

Ergo, a "reduction" could be looked upon more as moving things to a lower common denominator or something, not just, like, taking people's karma away or anything.

Although I do see EF's lawer will need to brush up on his tort law if the whole k-store and reductio ad renormalis thing were to happen, lol.

I'm well aware of the concept of the decimal drop and it was my very first thought two or three weeks back when Digger made some posts about admins deciding it was time to halt inflation. It's the same priciple, in reverse, that leads to pinball manufacturers glueing three, or more, zeros to the display panel after the final significant digit.

If reducing our K and the prices in the store by some factor doesn't change anything then, surely, there's no value to making the change. If we drop all K numbers by 1,000 then bombs will cost 10 points rather than 10,000 from personal budgets that are 1,000-fold smaller.

The numbers are fine as they are if for no better reason than that they are what we've grown accustomed to. Doing a decimal drop on the values also loses resolution although I'll not use that as an argument for adding some zeros.

The greatest contributor we currently have to K-Power, and correspondingly inflation, is the coefficient in the K-Formula for posts. It's currently at 1:2000. Adding some zeros here might be sufficient to slow things down if Store usage can be encouraged more.

 

[samoth]

Sounds pretty good. I heard this before from some of the Mods and Chairmen...


-BRR

Strongly disagree, and there are more reasons why I believe so than I even have time or space to write tonight.

Then again, I suppose it does depend on the kind of change the karmic system will be undergoing: something completely different, or something only to deal with the inflation problem and future inflationary disturbances. I am under a specific impression that you (pl, gen: EFC) want to deal solely with the near-exponential inflation of abstract numerical "karma", and let all other things remain the same. So we're really open to a number of options here then, right? Like, anything meaningful or substantive goes, viz. is considerable? Hmm...........

 

[black sheep]

Logical fallacy of the undistributed middle, ergo a false premise. Also, Existential fallacym, fallacy of misplaced concreteness, ad nauseum. Your argument is totally non sequitur.

HTH

Exactly how do you figure my argument has noting to do with the question at hand?

 

[Big Rick Rock]

Perhaps you could explain why the present situation is somehow in crisis? I'm not as closed minded as you might think. I simply haven't seen a valid explanation for how the inflation is really a problem?

You should have seen the old karma system at Mr. X's board. People had hundreds of billions of K points, and were hitting in the tens and hundreds of millions. The system actually maxed out, at somewhere around 450 billion per user, their scores wouldn't go up anymore once they hit the limit. Some members hits were worth so much that they could max out someone else with just a couple of hits. It was hilarious.

The system here does not appear to be in any danger of reaching that point.

Here's a thought - each member could have a sort of karma allowance or daily karma salary, a figure that is less than the total number of karma hits they can give out in a day. Any hits they give out beyond that figure would come out of the user's karma total. For example, at present Platinum members can give out 30 karma hits per day. What if you removed that limit, but after 20 100% hits per day, any additional hits would come out of their karma total? Or for that matter, 20 100% hits = 30 75% hits = 40 50% hits, so on and so forth... After that, any additional hits would be the same as a karma store karma donation transaction. Or would this be too terribly complicated to program and administer? The end result would be less inflation.

With all due respect Mr.db... You just asked me why inflation is a problem and then went on to give me the worst case scenario… An over inflated Karma system that just becomes worthless. Who cares about Karma when you can Max out somebody’s account with two hits???… Sure the site is not going that way YET, but we but we can see what the current snowballing effect is doing… We will get there eventually … I think you answered your own question.

George thinks that the members enjoy Karma and like to play around with the system, is like a little side hobby to fill their down time at work… He wants to keep it fun and make sure it is still enjoyable for the members.





-BRR

 

[needtogetaas]

Logical fallacy of the undistributed middle, ergo a false premise. Also, Existential fallacym, fallacy of misplaced concreteness, ad nauseum. Your argument is totally non sequitur.

HTH

realy I dont get why people even wast there time doing this.

realy lets brake down needto stile.

tottle bullshit facts on the undisstibuted middle,so I dumb Idie.there is no way this will work.youre argument makes no sence and is a bunch of crap.

daimon has spoken.

 

[blut wump]

I also strongly disagree. It too strongly discourages hitting.

 

[samoth]

Exactly how do you figure my argument has noting to do with the question at hand?

Existential fallacym and fallacy of misplaced concreteness. Ergo, your argument is, for all practical purposes, non sequitur.

However, I believe I was looking/thinking in a different manner or way of attacking the problem, so I retract my comments made towards you. Apologies.

 

[needtogetaas]

lol brr you just made the bigist k thread in ef histery.youre the man.

 

[samoth]

I also strongly disagree. It too strongly discourages hitting.

Good point. I use hitting not for karmic purposes, but for a little kind of 'instant message' kinda thing regarding one specific post on one specific thread without wasting board space with said message, or to keep it private.

Like I meant to hit BRR with K asking why, on his profile, he listed http://www.elitefitness.com/ g.o /brr, which leads to the exact same site as www.elitefitness.com (I've been learning computer stuff lately, hence the curiosity), but hit the 'enter' button before I could complete the message. lol

 

[blut wump]

As an aside to indicate where mods and admins might take us in our nightmares, I've seen an admin suggesting that K enters the system only through Store purchases. Hitting would come out of your own stash as a gift. Red hits would destroy K from the system.