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Intermittent Fasting discussion thread!!

What is the feeling on meal timing? I always thought it was bs that I needed some protein within 30 mins of my workout or whatever. So if I am doing IF, and my feed window starts at 12 pm and i go lift at 9 am I dont have to worry about a protein shake post work out? Would it be fine to wait 2 hrs after working out to have a shake/real food?
 
What is the feeling on meal timing? I always thought it was bs that I needed some protein within 30 mins of my workout or whatever. So if I am doing IF, and my feed window starts at 12 pm and i go lift at 9 am I dont have to worry about a protein shake post work out? Would it be fine to wait 2 hrs after working out to have a shake/real food?

It's fine to wait 2 hours post workout. Your body is getting more time to use that stored body fat!!
 
Im ready to start IF. Would simply skipping breakfast be a good starting point? That would give me a 12-14 fast every day.
 
What is the feeling on meal timing? I always thought it was bs that I needed some protein within 30 mins of my workout or whatever. So if I am doing IF, and my feed window starts at 12 pm and i go lift at 9 am I dont have to worry about a protein shake post work out? Would it be fine to wait 2 hrs after working out to have a shake/real food?

Yes it is fine to wait after your workout for food. It is part of the whole IF protocol. I can't cover everything in this post, but everything you want to know is on the first few pages of this thread.if you are considering doing this, then reading that would be a good start.

One thing I will say, is that while doing fasted workouts are fine with IF, BCAAs are recommended to be ingested before workout, after workout, and every two hours during the fast before your feeding begins. This keeps protein synthesis going which is crucial after the muscle breakdown that occurs from a workout.
 
I've been interested in this intermittent fasting idea for a few months now, did some research and incorporated it to my lifestyle (not 'diet', I never diet) 5 weeks ago.

Use a 24h fast from 8pm to 8pm following day every third day. So Mon-fast, Tue-maint.cals (2800) - Wed-maint.cals - Thur-fast - etc.

My training has stayed identical.
Weights 2-3x week full body comp lifts (deads/squats/chins/rows/DB benches/cleans), 6-8 reps for 4 sets per lift.
Cardio - light HIIT (4-6 reps of 30sec all-out sprints on track or elyptical), now done just before meal that breaks the fast.

Well, I just got my blood work done a 2nd time, and had it compared to the one from 5 weeks ago:

Aside from being 7lbs lighter (coming from 204lbs 6'0" -/+ 11%bf)- my strength is stable so no reason to suspect muscle catabolism - my HDL is up, LDL stable, triglycerides markedly down, blood sugar almost halved, test slightly down (but utterly negligable amount to worry about muscle loss), and no negative markers of any kind, somewhat surprisingly.

It just makes sense really. We've been led to believe that not eating is the bane of fitness and health - I mean imagine what the supplement and food industry stands to lose if we were to actually eat significantly less each week!

I mean think about it - the industry tells us that if you don't eat, you will 'hold your fat reserves'.... Are you telling me that your body won't use it's fat stores if you don't eat or eat a lot less? Think about how contra-intuitive that sounds. Fat is energy stored to use when no sustenance is consumed. Surely that's simple enough?

Fasting for anything over 12 hours will decrease insulin levels, increase growth hormone & catecholamine secretion (both of which will increase lipolysis) and downregulate the receptors that 'hold on to lipids' in fat cells thus making it easier for your blood to absorb these lipids and use as energy. Result - your body will use your fat reserves.

The 'myth' of your body 'holding on' to fat reserves during calorie-restriction and burning muscle instead has really gone on long enough. It just doesn't make sense from an evolutionary point of view:
No food = even more need to be sharp and keep strength to hunt and gather - so use only stored lipids for energy, keep muscle & increase alertness.
Plenty food = no need to be sharp, or awake for that matter (see drowsiness after large meals, poor ability to concentrate, no need whatsoever to tap into lipid reserves...)

I'm starting to think this honestly is the 'holy grail' of getting/staying lean and optimalising health. And I hate using such terminology, but it might just be true this time.
 
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