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I'm finding carbs aren't needed while "on"

Sassy69 said:
Just for shits & grins you might consider a 1x/week carb up. Dont' go crazy and kill a couple pizzas, but just a refeed of sorts. If your body has learned to run on 110g of carb, that's great but generally small changes in diet, particularly in carbs can really kick up some good responses. You might find you feel even better or can train harder.

I guess 110 g of carb is not "no carb" -- my low carb days when I'm rotating carbs are 30g or less -- or just veggies for a day or two. Then I bump up to 50-90 g -- that's a competition carb rotation. I can also run for a quite a while on just 30 g of carb from my morning oatmeal, but I know for a fact I'm probably not running optimally.


I have been having a carb up day on occassion but not to the full extent like I do when competing etc. I know it is great for overall gains but for some reason I have been feeling great by having a "refeed" that is high in fat and protein like 16 oz steak with some veggies and then an hour and half later I will have 1 cup cottage cheese, 1 scoop whey with 3 TBSP ANPB and some almonds all mixed together. You are right that your body gets used to running on low carbs though, but I do feel great the next day after I bump the carbs a bit, I can really notice my strength climb/increased muscle fullness etc.
 
Sounds like you know what you are doing!

Out of curiosity - do you find you respond well to a fat load more than a carb load? I've seen some girls during competition prep respond fantastically to PB loads or almond loads (fat loads) whereas for me I just get "backed up".... (sorry) ... but carb loads work fantastic for me, but not for these people who do better on fat loads....
 
Sassy69 said:
Sounds like you know what you are doing!

Out of curiosity - do you find you respond well to a fat load more than a carb load? I've seen some girls during competition prep respond fantastically to PB loads or almond loads (fat loads) whereas for me I just get "backed up".... (sorry) ... but carb loads work fantastic for me, but not for these people who do better on fat loads....

I do respond much much better to a high fat and protein load rather than carb loading. I tend to feel much fuller and vascular the following day rather than carb loading which leaves me with a lot of water retention, and also with less of a response to carbs the following day.

When i fat load I find that the next day when I add in some carbs and muscles are already filled out from the fat, the muscle grabs the glycogen and "super-saturates" the muscles bellies giving me great training session etc without the extra carbs.

Also, when I fat load I always include veggies and protein and use a combo of fats like olive oil, flax seeds (ground), almonds, and ANPB. For me I will eat about 60g of fat and 50 grams protein along with the sodium from the ANPB and I fill out great!
 
I'm a big advocate of low carb nutrient dense diets and I have lots of energy by using fats instead of carbs and yes MCT can be used for energy instead of carbs. I also tend to use biotin to increase calories being converted to energy , but then you need to increase the protein , fats and overall calories.

I don't believe 300+ grams sugar is necessary for a good workout and it's definitly not necessary for brain function
 
gjohnson5 said:
I'm a big advocate of low carb nutrient dense diets and I have lots of energy by using fats instead of carbs and yes MCT can be used for energy instead of carbs. I also tend to use biotin to increase calories being converted to energy , but then you need to increase the protein , fats and overall calories.

I don't believe 300+ grams sugar is necessary for a good workout and it's definitly not necessary for brain function

Maybe your like me bro and respond really well to fats and protein. If I eat the carbs and protein needed to grow I store fat fast, but with protein and fat my insulin levels stay low and I can really put away some calories with no fat.
 
Vascular Freak said:
Maybe your like me bro and respond really well to fats and protein. If I eat the carbs and protein needed to grow I store fat fast, but with protein and fat my insulin levels stay low and I can really put away some calories with no fat.

Not to make this a racial issue , but are you black?

I dunno why I fell this way, but it may be due to the deaths of Luther Vandross , Barry White and Kirby Puckett... But I think after age 30 my metabolism dropped to a very slow pace and I find that carbs are simple not needed for energy. If I did load up on carbs I would store fat big time.

When I first started a low carb diet I was lethargic (was having lethargy issues anyway) but as time when on I found I was able to adjust. I found something called coconut (milk and oil) and another thing call biotin. Those 2 with a high fats such as flax seeds, fish and fish oils, steak and a high 250+ grams of protein that I have all the energy I need.

I do take Anafits Seasapure and glucorrel r with what carbs and sometimes with protein shakes.

Speaking of which, My carbs are grapefruit , yogurt , spinach, maybe some pasta once a week or every other week. But this low level of carbs does not hinder me in the gym. it just took a while.
 
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