I'm finding carbs aren't needed while "on"

[Bruce]

i'm an ecto but still all that matters to me when i'm on is eating enough steak and chicken. the carbs are secondary. so long i ate pasta and rice but it was not making me grow like this. i admit though i need the carbs early on for good training. but after that its all meat after that

 

[silverbackn]

i'm an ecto but still all that matters to me when i'm on is eating enough steak and chicken. the carbs are secondary. so long i ate pasta and rice but it was not making me grow like this. i admit though i need the carbs early on for good training. but after that its all meat after that

What are you weighing?

 

[Bruce]

fuckin a bro just moved so haven't been in the gym enough but 189 the most ive ever weighed. probably 6-9%

 

[Vascular Freak]

i'm an ecto but still all that matters to me when i'm on is eating enough steak and chicken. the carbs are secondary. so long i ate pasta and rice but it was not making me grow like this. i admit though i need the carbs early on for good training. but after that its all meat after that

Thats what I am saying, I hit the carbs in the am around training time pre and post workout and meal 3 as well then I just pound down the meat and cottage cheese with some healthy fats and grow like mad.

 

[gautho]

Breakdown on my numbers:
400g's protein/day
300g's carbs/day
50-75g's fat/day

 

[silverbackn]

fuckin a bro just moved so haven't been in the gym enough but 189 the most ive ever weighed. probably 6-9%

Nice work bro! That's solid

 

[gjohnson5]

It sounds to me like you are very endomorhpic, I'm definitely at the other end of that spectrum. That makes a gargantuan difference in when and what types of foods you should be consuming. BTW, if you are 5'9 and that big with that low of a bodyfat you are a big ass dude. I think that most people fall somewhere in the middle of our different genetic make ups.

Yeah , I was an ecto until I hit age 30 , LOL
But yeah , it's work to drop fat for me so even 300g of carbs is out of the question. I use high protein and high fats. if I were to bulk however I would add more carbs and more fats which would increase overall calories. I think that is the key, calories not carbs....

If we were to draw a belle curve of people in terms of height / weight and bodyfat percentage , I definitly would not be inside the standard deviation

 

[silverbackn]

Yeah , I was an ecto until I hit age 30 , LOL
But yeah , it's work to drop fat for me so even 300g of carbs is out of the question. I use high protein and high fats. if I were to bulk however I would add more carbs and more fats which would increase overall calories. I think that is the key, calories not carbs....

If we were to draw a belle curve of people in terms of height / weight and bodyfat percentage , I definitly would not be inside the standard deviation[/QUOTE
I definitely agree that it's all about total calories. I just think most guys who can't gain the size they want never eat enough good carbs to make gains. I eat a lot of good fats too as they are vastly important. Protein is just way overemphasized in most bodybuilders diets. Which is due to people flipping through too many muscle mags and not being educated enough to know that protein isn't able to build muscle without adequate carbs and fats in the system. I easily get 100g's of fat a day on top of the large amounts of carbs and protein. You definitely wouldn't be inside the standard deviation, you're a big kid!

 

[Vascular Freak]

I am all about some incline pressing. I have put up 315 for 4 on incline barbell. I haven't been deadlifting consistently though, I'm just getting back in that game on that. I would love to try some primo, I may throw some into my next cycle.

Thats good strength.... ever try doing inclines at a really steep angle almost to the point where your delts come into play? I do these with dumbells and set the incline at about a 65-75 degree angle. It really hits the delt/pec tie ins and give the illusion of upper girdle thickness. I throw these in on chest and shoulder day.

 

[silverbackn]

Thats good strength.... ever try doing inclines at a really steep angle almost to the point where your delts come into play? I do these with dumbells and set the incline at about a 65-75 degree angle. It really hits the delt/pec tie ins and give the illusion of upper girdle thickness. I throw these in on chest and shoulder day.

I'm actually pretty shoulder dominant. I haven't been able to train them directly in over a year up until about 2 weeks ago with light high rep stuff at the end of my chest workout. I miss having blown up shoulders. I have just been battling an injury and trying to get back to where I can do some direct work again. I can sure as hell use some more upper body thickness!