I'm finding carbs aren't needed while "on"

[silverbackn]

I think its your metabolism and this should not be the norm at all. If you're intake is 1000 grams carb + gear + 400-500g protein and you're not like 350lb then I think your metabolism is hindering your muscle gains.

What are your contest placing at BTW?

I have been over 250 at a few different points. I am clean right now and am hovering around 225, my quads are still striated and I'm still vascular. My metabolism didn't used to be this high, it's high because I have put on alot of muscle mass. I don't think it's ever easy for someone who is already 225 and fairly lean to put on a ton of mass after 10 years of training. The average person on this board probably realistically weighs about 185 with about 12-18% bodyfat. There metbolic demands and mine would have no similarities. I'm not saying that I'm special or gifted by any means, I just have a lot more time in the gym than a lot of the guys on here because I started lifting pretty young. You have seen the diets of pro's and national level guys, the amount of food and carbs specifically they have to eat to gain mass is ridiculous.

 

[silverbackn]

I think its your metabolism and this should not be the norm at all. If you're intake is 1000 grams carb + gear + 400-500g protein and you're not like 350lb then I think your metabolism is hindering your muscle gains.

What are your contest placing at BTW?

I have placed as high as second place twice. I'm 26 and have done 5 shows, the only one I didn't place in was my first one. I never touched any anabolics until I was 23 and had already been up to 240 totally clean.

 

[Vascular Freak]

I have been over 250 at a few different points. I am clean right now and am hovering around 225, my quads are still striated and I'm still vascular. My metabolism didn't used to be this high, it's high because I have put on alot of muscle mass. I don't think it's ever easy for someone who is already 225 and fairly lean to put on a ton of mass after 10 years of training. The average person on this board probably realistically weighs about 185 with about 12-18% bodyfat. There metbolic demands and mine would have no similarities. I'm not saying that I'm special or gifted by any means, I just have a lot more time in the gym than a lot of the guys on here because I started lifting pretty young. You have seen the diets of pro's and national level guys, the amount of food and carbs specifically they have to eat to gain mass is ridiculous.

Cheers to ya bro, trust me it is such a good thing to have a sick metabolism. If you gained fat on a 3k diet your genetic potential would be nothing compared to what you will experience now. Some guys that have fast metabs talk like its a bad thing, but don't realize that means that everything you put in your mouth is being used as fuel and not being stored.

 

[gjohnson5]

I have been over 250 at a few different points. I am clean right now and am hovering around 225, my quads are still striated and I'm still vascular. My metabolism didn't used to be this high, it's high because I have put on alot of muscle mass. I don't think it's ever easy for someone who is already 225 and fairly lean to put on a ton of mass after 10 years of training. The average person on this board probably realistically weighs about 185 with about 12-18% bodyfat. There metbolic demands and mine would have no similarities. I'm not saying that I'm special or gifted by any means, I just have a lot more time in the gym than a lot of the guys on here because I started lifting pretty young. You have seen the diets of pro's and national level guys, the amount of food and carbs specifically they have to eat to gain mass is ridiculous.

I'm 235 - 240 at 5'9 and am probably 15% now after changing my diet being very strict on carbs. I've been working out for 20 years not 10. In terms of gear, I have only done m1t (when I could buy it in the store)... And I havent' done that in 1.5 years...
I can run full court BBall and I would only lose water, hence my diet.

If I was to do 1000g of carbs like you do I would most definitly be 300+ lb probably 350. Then again I would proabably be dead... Anyway I don't think steroids would even be needed. to reach that for me. I may have to stop my gov't job so I can do gear. Some people must think steroids are that powerful

 

[Zircon]

what doseages r u running on cycle?

not dissing u but I got and kept 7bls on a 4 week prop cycle 100mg eod....and my diet wasnt good at all lol. I dno. I would add in some complex carbs like brown rice, quinoa and oats...see wher eu go with tht.

otherwise good luck

 

[Vascular Freak]

test 250mg, eq 500mg, primo 600mg, winstrol 60mg, proviron 50mg

 

[silverbackn]

I'm 235 - 240 at 5'9 and am probably 15% now after changing my diet being very strict on carbs. I've been working out for 20 years not 10. In terms of gear, I have only done m1t (when I could buy it in the store)... And I havent' done that in 1.5 years...
I can run full court BBall and I would only lose water, hence my diet.

If I was to do 1000g of carbs like you do I would most definitly be 300+ lb probably 350. Then again I would proabably be dead... Anyway I don't think steroids would even be needed. to reach that for me. I may have to stop my gov't job so I can do gear. Some people must think steroids are that powerful

It sounds to me like you are very endomorhpic, I'm definitely at the other end of that spectrum. That makes a gargantuan difference in when and what types of foods you should be consuming. BTW, if you are 5'9 and that big with that low of a bodyfat you are a big ass dude. I think that most people fall somewhere in the middle of our different genetic make ups.

 

[silverbackn]

Cheers to ya bro, trust me it is such a good thing to have a sick metabolism. If you gained fat on a 3k diet your genetic potential would be nothing compared to what you will experience now. Some guys that have fast metabs talk like its a bad thing, but don't realize that means that everything you put in your mouth is being used as fuel and not being stored.

Thanks bro, you're definitely right about that. A fast metabolism isn't a bad thing, I just have to be very disciplined in making sure that I don't miss meals and get in enough good food. It would be very hard to make mass gains if I blew up with bodyfat everytime I bumped up my calories. I am 6'1, it takes time to fill out when you're taller. I am pretty broad shouldered, my width is decent, I just need to put on some serious thickness. Hello deadlifts!

 

[Vascular Freak]

Thanks bro, you're definitely right about that. A fast metabolism isn't a bad thing, I just have to be very disciplined in making sure that I don't miss meals and get in enough good food. It would be very hard to make mass gains if I blew up with bodyfat everytime I bumped up my calories. I am 6'1, it takes time to fill out when you're taller. I am pretty broad shouldered, my width is decent, I just need to put on some serious thickness. Hello deadlifts!

Deads, heavy shrugs, and heavy inclines brings the thickness bro. Add some primo to your cycle as well and you will end up with cartoonish width

 

[silverbackn]

Deads, heavy shrugs, and heavy inclines brings the thickness bro. Add some primo to your cycle as well and you will end up with cartoonish width

I am all about some incline pressing. I have put up 315 for 4 on incline barbell. I haven't been deadlifting consistently though, I'm just getting back in that game on that. I would love to try some primo, I may throw some into my next cycle.