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I need a diet that isn't

chesty

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filling, is for cutting. I need to shed 35 lbs in 3 months. I have full on ephedrine/caffeine/aspirin stack (Xenydrine) which has alway worked for me in the past. I used to use the atkins principle for getting contest ready, but it doesn't seem to work as well now that I am older (I am not really that old 41, I still have my size and some abdominal definition, but my skin is/has gotten really thick in that area)

I eat what used to be normal sized meals and I feel over stuffed and my stomach/abdomen gets really hard, almost like I am filling up with air or something.

If I do any vitamins I would use gh/test/winny/eq or deca and finish the last 3 weeks with halotestin. (this was a good stack in the past for me. I won't use insulin, but will eat what is necessary to get the most from the gh by naturally raising my insulin levels.

So, my problem is thus, I need to eat 5 times a day, get in at least 200gms of protein, limit my carbs and have the correct type of fat in the appropriate levels, I don't do well eating a lot of "normal" food (I will be seeing a doctor about this) so who can put together something that will work.
 
not to be rude or anything, but why dont you put together something yourself and then we ca help you from there. Or at least post up what you are eating now so that we have something to work off of.
 
oar1125 said:
not to be rude or anything, but why dont you put together something yourself and then we ca help you from there. Or at least post up what you are eating now so that we have something to work off of.


It is pretty standard. I was looking for something fresh and not based on what I have been doing. But,

breakfast: 6 eggwhites, celery, onion, mushrooms, scoop of protein with flaxseed oil

snack: protein shake with flaxseed oil (40-50gms)

lunch: can of tuna (albacore) leaf lettuce, half-one tblspn of italian dressing made with flax seed oil, scoop of protein

snack/pre workout 1-2 hours before: protein shake (40-50gms) flaxseed oil

post workout: protein shake 20-30 minutes after

dinner: 1 or 2 chicken breast, salad 1 tblspn italian dressing, tea or water

I have water or tea with all of my meals, and take two Xenydrine 3 times a day.

Pretty simple, bland yes, but has worked in the past.
 
What I am saying is it worked (past tense) it hasn't worked so well recently, not sure what is going on. That is why I am looking to tweak it.
 
Hey Chesty -- consider a carb cycle? If you feel stuffed on those meals, you could do the carb cycle by removing complex carbs over a 3 day period- normally I replace the calories removed from the carbs w/ the same calories in fats (e.g. replace 3-4 oz sweet potato at meal 2 w/ 1 tbsp flax seed oil - about the same calories) - this keeps my calories the same across the carb cycle - but you could just remove the complex carbs and not replace them - thus giving you not only a carb cycle but also a calorie-based cycle. The carb rotation instead of just lowering your carbs across the board might help spur some short term fat burning, give you a short carb refeed and then cut again --- consider it like the "Weider Shock Principle" - your body will constantly be responding to a different type of fuel input instead of gettign comfy w/ the constant low carb.
 
Sassy69 said:
Hey Chesty -- consider a carb cycle? If you feel stuffed on those meals, you could do the carb cycle by removing complex carbs over a 3 day period- normally I replace the calories removed from the carbs w/ the same calories in fats (e.g. replace 3-4 oz sweet potato at meal 2 w/ 1 tbsp flax seed oil - about the same calories) - this keeps my calories the same across the carb cycle - but you could just remove the complex carbs and not replace them - thus giving you not only a carb cycle but also a calorie-based cycle. The carb rotation instead of just lowering your carbs across the board might help spur some short term fat burning, give you a short carb refeed and then cut again --- consider it like the "Weider Shock Principle" - your body will constantly be responding to a different type of fuel input instead of gettign comfy w/ the constant low carb.

That sounds interesting, I am going to work that in I think. I just started cutting yesterday. Will cut for about 12-16 weeks. Yes, long time, but at a much slower pace. I want to lose 35 pounds (if possible) over that time frame.

pm me a sample of your diet menu. I also have a female friend that is trying to cut a little bit. She is a singer and in front of people all the time.
 
I like Sassy's idea but I do it a little different to try to hold onto some muscle.

On lifting days: I low carb until an hour before training then have an apple or something small with carbs. After training carb load to get your target amount in for day (300g or whatever) before bed, meanwhile hitting your protein target as well.

On rest days: Low carb most of the day unless you are expecting much activity (ie... redoing the roof or going hiking). Hit protein and fat goals but keep carbs as low as possible with maybe only fruit or veggies (no fruit juice).

The difference from Sassy's is that I believe (whatever thats worth) that I need carbs after training to refuel and recruit more muscle or keep myself from losing any. If I were to low carb for 3 days straight, I wouldnt be able to refuel after lifting and would risk muscle loss (its happened before).

PF
 
I agree with that philosphy for gaining/maintaining and even cutting to a degree, but I try to keep my carbs in the very low glycemic range and keep them small replacing with good fat and protein. The idea is to convince the body to burn fat for fuel after all stored carbs are burned off. If you ingest carbs right before or after training your body will use that for fuel and not the stored fat/carbs. But anything is worth a try!
 
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