How long before I hit ketosis?

[JoBu]

I don't understand. Ketosis happens when your body doesn't have enough carbs to meet energy requirements...and it has to resort to something else...fat. What is the physiological mechanism behind your suggestion of high fat intake?

but to be ketogenic
you'll need a fat intake higher than protien intake and almost 5 times that of carb

 

[Hell_o77]

if the keto strip is pink your in ketosis.
I dont think it matters how "deep" you get into ketosis.
your in if your in.

 

[JoBu]

if the keto strip is pink your in ketosis.
I dont think it matters how "deep" you get into ketosis.
your in if your in.

It has 5 shades on the bottle that represent the amount of ketones detedted...none, trace, low, moderate, high. I was trace last night and closer to low tonight.

 

[obiwan9962]

I don't understand. Ketosis happens when your body doesn't have enough carbs to meet energy requirements...and it has to resort to something else...fat. What is the physiological mechanism behind your suggestion of high fat intake?

without a high % of fat the body will go to another source for glycogen....protien
you will become catabolic instead of ketogenic

and instead of losing fat your body will start to burn protien first

here is something to read:
http://low-carb.org/lylemcd/

look to FAQ some of it is abit technical but you'll get the idea

 

[JoBu]

Interesting read...thanks. Although I'm still not sure it explained why such high levels of fats are necessary. And...if I crank fats up to get into ketosis, can I then drop them some and stay there...assuming I keep carbs to a minimum?

JoBu

without a high % of fat the body will go to another source for glycogen....protien
you will become catabolic instead of ketogenic

and instead of losing fat your body will start to burn protien first

here is something to read:
http://low-carb.org/lylemcd/

look to FAQ some of it is abit technical but you'll get the idea

 

[dr0832]

Its common sense. Your dropping carbs your bodys main source of energy which for most people in america is high carbs and in place of carbs you substituting high fat. The reason for this is your body won't work properly without a source of energy and also since your body needs a lot of energy in order work properly when you deplete your the fat that you've eaten (like glycogen storage in your muscles) your body will tap into you fat stores and you will begin to lose fat. The protein is necessary to help main tain muscle, although you still win lose some muscle over time. If you were to do a low carb diet without eating fat your body would just start converting protein into glucose and using that for energy and you would start to lose all your muscle and maintain body fat. Also you would start to seriously starve yourself unless you were to eat a huge amount of protein like 500g.

 

[Hell_o77]

Sorry, i wasn't clear.
If you have a trace of ketones, your in ketosis.
So if you have that light pink color staring you in the face
your good to go as far as i know. Ask bodybyfinaplex he knows his stuff.

 

[JoBu]

Maybe I'm not explaining myself. If I deprive my body of carbs why does it resort to protien rather then fat as you're suggesting? I thought the idea behind a keto diet was that your body would switch to fat...becuase it didn't have sufficient carbs. Now, if I take in large amounts of fat and my body uses them for energy why would it start tapping into stored fats? Just sounds like I'd be using dietary fat rather then body fat...which doesn't get me where i want to go. Anyway, I'm bunping my fat intake anyway for a couple days to see what happens.

JoBu

Its common sense. Your dropping carbs your bodys main source of energy which for most people in america is high carbs and in place of carbs you substituting high fat. The reason for this is your body won't work properly without a source of energy and also since your body needs a lot of energy in order work properly when you deplete your the fat that you've eaten (like glycogen storage in your muscles) your body will tap into you fat stores and you will begin to lose fat. The protein is necessary to help main tain muscle, although you still win lose some muscle over time. If you were to do a low carb diet without eating fat your body would just start converting protein into glucose and using that for energy and you would start to lose all your muscle and maintain body fat. Also you would start to seriously starve yourself unless you were to eat a huge amount of protein like 500g.