How do you know the right amount of calories and macro ratio to maintain new mass?

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So, youre on a cycle putting on weight, and you end the cycle up X amount of pounds. Once the gear gets out of your system how do you know what the right amount of calories and macro ratio to maintain the new muscle mass?

Or does it not even matter if your body is gonna do what your body is gonna do after a cycle and it will go back to homeostasis precycle weight no matter what. Unless you blast and cruise

 

[TheRippedReverend]

Well no matter what your gonna loose some if you keep 2-5 pounds of mass your doing really well. Mostly what you'll loose is water. However, I just keep the diet in check on a 50-20-30 or such but what Id do is up cals by 500 at a time every 3500 cals = 1.5lb.

Sorry I know this isnt a direct answer but I believe there just isnt one everyone is different.

Likewise here my advice do a 50/20/30 or 40/30/20 or something close x your marcos x 14 for cutt 16 for bulk. So take the weight you want to be so say 220@10%bf so your lbm is 198 x that times 14 or 16 that number will be ur daily marcos to maintain that weight. then just rember your fat = 9 cals protien and carbs are 4 cals

Help? Ah little

 

[germaine91]

Re: How do you know the right amount of calories and macro ratio to maintain new mass

Don't follow percentages for macros like above. When off gear:

1g/lb protein is plenty
0.45g/lb fat is a minimum
Fill remaining calories primarily with carbs

Calories, keep high during PCT. Once you're done PCT gauge your rate of weight gain and adjust calories as needed.

 

[notjake11]

Re: How do you know the right amount of calories and macro ratio to maintain new mass

Don't follow percentages for macros like above. When off gear:

1g/lb protein is plenty
0.45g/lb fat is a minimum
Fill remaining calories primarily with carbs

Calories, keep high during PCT. Once you're done PCT gauge your rate of weight gain and adjust calories as needed.

With my lack of experience with AAS, I know not to try to answer a question like this unless I can refer to another very experienced member's advice as the basis for the opinion. Given that you have never actually run a cycle, what are you basing this on? Rippedrev is a well respected poster with substantial experience actually running cycles.

 

[germaine91]

Re: How do you know the right amount of calories and macro ratio to maintain new mass

Rippedrev is a well respected poster with substantial experience actually running cycles.

That doesn't change the fact that percentages should never be used when determining macros.

You're using logical fallacies as the basis of your argument.

 

[notjake11]

Re: How do you know the right amount of calories and macro ratio to maintain new mass

That doesn't change the fact that percentages should never be used when determining macros.

You're using logical fallacies as the basis of your argument.

You're using percentages too, just not wording it that way. If someone weighs 200 pounds and is capping their calories at 2000, your 1g/lb is still 40% of their caloric intake. You may not use those words, but you're still giving a macro balance. Your guidelines would tell that person to eat at least 90g of fats, which is also 40% of their caloric intake. Changing the wording doesn't change the fact that you're giving percentage guidlines still.

And I reiterate that you shouldn't be making recommendations on something you have no actual experience with. I have 20 years of diet and training history to call on with my clients and will advise them but I know nothing about AAS and wouldn't dare try to recommend ideal diet for someone coming off PCT given I don't have the info or experience.

 

[germaine91]

Re: How do you know the right amount of calories and macro ratio to maintain new mass

You're using percentages too, just not wording it that way. If someone weighs 200 pounds and is capping their calories at 2000, your 1g/lb is still 40% of their caloric intake. You may not use those words, but you're still giving a macro balance. Your guidelines would tell that person to eat at least 90g of fats, which is also 40% of their caloric intake. Changing the wording doesn't change the fact that you're giving percentage guidlines still.

Wow, just wow.

1. What 200lb male, who lifts weights, would eat 2,000kcal? It would be closer to 4,000kcal in reality.

2. 40/40/20 is a percentage split. 50/30/20 is a percentage split. 1g/b protein & 0.45g/lb fat are requirements based of people's weight & LBM, not a percentage of their diet. How on earth can you not comprehend that?

 

[bigbassturd]

Wow, just wow.

1. What 200lb male, who lifts weights, would eat 2,000kcal? It would be closer to 4,000kcal in reality.

2. 40/40/20 is a percentage split. 50/30/20 is a percentage split. 1g/b protein & 0.45g/lb fat are requirements based of people's weight & LBM, not a percentage of their diet. How on earth can you not comprehend that?

How on earth can you not comprehend that you are still giving a percentage split, just not breaking it down to a 3 way number? You're doing the exact same thing, except you're wording it differently, and you're WAY off on macro intake for a healthy diet.

 

[notjake11]

How on earth can you not comprehend that you are still giving a percentage split, just not breaking it down to a 3 way number? You're doing the exact same thing, except you're wording it differently, and you're WAY off on macro intake for a healthy diet.

Exactly.

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[germaine91]

Re: How do you know the right amount of calories and macro ratio to maintain new mass

How on earth can you not comprehend that you are still giving a percentage split, just not breaking it down to a 3 way number? You're doing the exact same thing, except you're wording it differently, and you're WAY off on macro intake for a healthy diet.

Oh lord. Obviously the outcome will be a percentage of his overall diet, but the macros do not change if the calories change. There are specific requirements regardless of caloric intake. Macros are based on bodyweight & LBM, not a percentage of calories.

It's like talking to children.

And if you think I'm way off, then what are your recommendations? I'd love to hear how all the research behind the protein and fat recommendations are wrong, how people like Alan Aragon, Eric Helms, Lyle McDonald, Emma Leigh, are all wrong. Enlighten me.