**How can i gain leg mass without squats!!**

[BIGEDD]

cheerz fpr the replies. I'm not having a prob actually gaining leg mass but in contrast to my glutes they are smaller my legs are about '26' with tear drop visible and fairly detailed. b fold you say your legs are 30.5(ripped) so that's 1 1/2 smaller than dorian yates hmmm?
So i will use a close stance with elevated heels(how does this help put the stress on the quads) and go just before paralell.

 

[b fold the truth]

Never said that my quads were ripped...but they do have cross striations when I flex them....and a few veins here and there. Will try to get a few pics up in a week or so.

B True

 

[gymtime]

I read somewhere that if you're not doing squats, you're not working out. Pretty simple.

 

[Phemomena]

well personally i cannot squat because if i do, my back just might snap in half. I have some pretty bad problems with it. Should i squat too?

no, don't squat...

anyone reading this who has injuries, skelatal(sp?) problems and/or under a doctors care for just about anything serious should make sure to have full medical clearance before they begin/continue a workout program, especially one that includes compound movements such as squats and deadlifts... once you have a doctors approval, these exercises should be done with light weights and very strict form, increase as comfortable, never jepordize your health to lift a weight you "think" you can handle...

much better to be safe than sorry...

 

[YoungNHugeGuns]

I have huge thighs and never squat. My squatting poundages are weak, probably due to poor lower back and ab strength. But I could throw up 18 plates on the leg press. As long as the intensity is ferocious, leg presses will give you all the mass you need.

I still would like some outer thigh sweep. If I point my toes and thighs inwards, my thighs actually look small. Otherwise, I have huge teardrops and hammies.

 

[maxmuscle66]

Glute involvement...

If you are get sore glutes the next day then I would need to conclude that you sticking you butt out too far and leaning too far forward... Why do I say this.... I have done it myself and know the feeling and results.
What you need to do is to keep your back as straight as you possibly can, next do not bottom out on the way down, only go slightly below parallel and no further otherwise you will involve your glutes and back which completely defeats the purpose... the greatest set of legs on the plant belong to Tom Platz who demonstrates this position perfectly in a training manual done by Arnold Schwarzenegger.

Maxmuscle66

 

[b fold the truth]

Hmmmmm...I also have pics that show Platz squattiing to the floor.

Once again...decide if you are going to do a powerlifting squat or a bodybuilding squat..two different things.

B True

 

[hesselite]

...I could throw up 18 plates on the leg press.

Good GOD. Are we talking REAL leg presses, or we talking the move-the-rack-4-inches-down-then-back-up-4-inches leg presses? I can only do 10 plates, but i use a wide stance on the leg press (to keep from squishing my legs, allowing the machine to almost touch my chest). Props if they're real leg presses!!

--Hess

 

[b fold the truth]

Ok...18 plates...810lbs I believe. Let's say that the sled somehow weighed 90lbs. So...you've got 900lbs on the leg press. WoW. Factor in the fact that with the angle of the leg press...you are probably only pushing about 300-400lbs. Ok...so you are doing reps with say 350 on the squat...and not even a full squat if you are trying to compare it to the leg press.

My point being...comparing the leg press and the squat is like comparing apples and oranges. They are both good, but you can't get apple juice from oranges.

I do not mean to put you down at all..by all means...18 plates is a good bit on the leg press for high reps. I am just trying to say that the leg press does not transer over into the squat. The squat is the king of the lower body and the erectors.

I've spent all weekend watching Louie Simmons tapes of West Side methods of training. Inspiring. Never did I see them do a leg press...just variations of the squat. He also said...over and over...do not train around your weak points. You will only be as strong as your weakest link. If you have a weak link, train it and train it hard. If your back hurts when you squat, then you have a weak back. Strengthen it. Fix the problem, do not make an excuse not to squat.

I will say this. If you have some sort of major spinal or bone structure problem...then all of this is out the window. Do what you can with what you have...trust me...I know.

In my humble opinion, it is better to squat without intensity than to leg press with intensity. You will still grow more from the squat if done properly..and you will strengthen your abs, erectors, back, glutes, hams, calves, etc.....

Sorry about the long post, and I hope that I did not offend anyone...that was not my intention. If I can help anyone on here...please let me know and feel free to email me anytime.

B True

 

[Imnotdutch]

Ah then you have to allow for the fact that you dont have to lift your own bodyweight when doing a legpress.....so you are actually doing the equivalent of a 1-200lb squat

Bfold I can see exactly where you are coming from. Alot of people out there do make excuses to avoid the serious lifts.....and then they wonder why they dont grow or get stronger. I used to be one of em. It took me forever to figure out that squats and deadlifts rule.

Ok...18 plates...810lbs I believe. Let's say that the sled somehow weighed 90lbs. So...you've got 900lbs on the leg press. WoW. Factor in the fact that with the angle of the leg press...you are probably only pushing about 300-400lbs. Ok...so you are doing reps with say 350 on the squat...and not even a full squat if you are trying to compare it to the leg press.