HELLO?! your on STEROIDS REMEMBER?

[Outtlaw]

wait was that the dude that was inquiring about the heavy tren cycle??

He was the guy bragging about running 2grams of test.http://www.elitefitness.com/forum/showthread.php?t=370440

 

[OMEGA]

that why the 3 areas of recovery should be adressed and seperated


1) Connective tissue recovery ( usually taxed through very heavy lifting, takes longer to recover)

2) Muscle recovery ( the actual muscle cells that we all try to develop that recover actually very fast hence the bodybuilder "look" )

3) Central nervous system recovery ( the actual rest and recuperation of the CNS our muscle recruiting fire power for lifting, also recovers somewhat quickly)


4) not really in the top three but "joints" have to be watched in sensitive individuals, but if the top three are taken care of then this wont be a problem

OMEGA that was enlightening

 

[Tweakle]

Omega I agree there's multiple things to take into account when you're talking recovery.. hence my comment on heavy training vs lighter workouts. From personal experience I know I fall apart if I train 2 days in a row, no matter how I split things.. tendons go, joints ache and gains stall.

I prefer to maximise load at the expense of volume and frequency.. I simply dont have the recovery ability to rebound from constant heavy training to failure. My sometime training partners a regional level strongman contestant and he trains 2 x weekly for a couple of sets, and his 'bridges' involve more gear than most ppl here take in a cycle. And hes got very, very big on a few sets a week.. lol. It's all individual

 

[TheAssholeFomerlyKnownAsDBBT]

Because...1 a week is more then enough for muscle to grow... anything more then 1x week is detrimental to my body. And most others too. If you are training properly. Your bodyparts that you train will be sore for a good 2-4days after training them even when on a potent cycle. So i reverse the question on you bro. Why are you not training hard enough as where your able to train the same body part 2x a week?

This is true, training bodyparts twice a week are for maybe 5% of the genetic freaks that it works for. Everyone is gonna go all out after this thread and bust their ass for two-three weeks and end up loosing strength and size

 

[LoneTree]

Arnold's book 'The New Encyclopedia of Modern Bodybuilding'.

Page 147:

'Different muscles recover from exercise at different rates. As I mentioned, biceps recover the fastest. The lower back muscles recover the slowest, taking about a hundred hours to completely recuperate from a heavy workout. However, in most cases, giving a body part 48 hours' rest is sufficient, which means skipping a day after training a muscle before training it again.'

 

[AMGETR]

Some of us have careers and can't live ina gym. So we are there 5-6 a week for 2 hrs at a time. That with proper big eating, and sleep, you will grow the same.

 

[TheAssholeFomerlyKnownAsDBBT]

Arnold's book 'The New Encyclopedia of Modern Bodybuilding'.

Page 147:

'Different muscles recover from exercise at different rates. As I mentioned, biceps recover the fastest. The lower back muscles recover the slowest, taking about a hundred hours to completely recuperate from a heavy workout. However, in most cases, giving a body part 48 hours' rest is sufficient, which means skipping a day after training a muscle before training it again.'

Key phrase is "Arnolds Book" Not EVERYONE"S BOOK

 

[OMEGA]

Omega I agree there's multiple things to take into account when you're talking recovery.. hence my comment on heavy training vs lighter workouts. From personal experience I know I fall apart if I train 2 days in a row, no matter how I split things.. tendons go, joints ache and gains stall.

well I respect you opinion and experience

I know that when i trained less frequently I was MORE succeptible to injury then when I trained more often

go figure


with lifting less fequently I found that my muscle were more prone to injuries

when i lfited more fequently stength curves remained liner or rose with no injury

the only flaw of training more frquently is the potetial for inflamtion of your form sucks, and possible CNS being taxed

 

[OMEGA]

;;;

 

[bicepts101]

really good thread here

this all really comes down to "trial and error" here as basically everyone said. some people cant train too often some have to

me personally, my body get so used to a workout regimin so quickly im constantly looking into new things, which for a while was putting a halt on gains....im still learning and have a lot of learning to do