The story is this, I stayed on for about 18 year's and now I need to be on HRT the rest of my life, I did it to myself, pretty stupid hun, I just loved being on and training, competing, which is no excuse for not cycling properly. Im sure I would be alot bigger if I did it right, my health problems very for high blood presure to fatty liver, pancreitites, to severe joint and tendon pain. I'm still training but its difficult right now I'm hoping it gets better. So bro's do it right stay off as long as your on and do your PCT's.