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sweetnes11 said:

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I don't belive in removing foreskin,That is my opionin.
I am not saying that Soklueles is wrong either, it was her decision for her sons. The same as it was for Mandinka's parents to make it for him. Would you have the same view on this subject Mandinka if you were cut?
My husband is uncut and i ask him how he felt about it , He said if we have a son he would want it done. I think God know we would fight to much if he gave us a son. so we have 3 daughters , so the subject was put to rest for us.
I think that Soklules did what she felt was best for her son's at the time. as you feel you have done with your Mandinka. Yes there is no medical reason to have it done. And as far as it being nasty or gross looking let me tell ya, a penis isnt all that beautiful to begin with lol ,
Just as an aside , my mother chose not to breastfeed her children, and you can be sure that we had quite a few words over that one too. We are all answerable for our actions , and none are we more answerable to than our children. But thankyou nevertheless for coming to the conclusion that the foreskin has a useful purpose and penii should not be mutilated for frivolous reasons. But may I ask you why you feel this way? Education perhaps I wonder?
 
SoKlueles said:
at birth....i am the owner of everything that child has. I am everything to that child.He is not old enough to make decisions of foreskin or not foreskin on his own.
And same for tonsils.....he was sick....we had them removed. It wasnt his decision...if it was his, he would be sick all the time and not have them removed. IT wasnt his decision. He was 5. SO00000 out they came. We did what was best for him in the long run. Thats what parents do. We make decisions that need to be made. If we let him make the decision when he is 18. It hurts him worse.

Wow, this is disturbing to read that a human regardless of gender feels they have POSSESSION over another human just because they brought that child to life. I think you are a quite clueless for sure! Do you feel that you, the mother, is the only one who is "the everything" to that child? What about the father? You didn't bring the child into this world alone.

Yes, your child is not old enough to make decisions. Yes, as a parent you are everything that child has. You are responsible for the child's wellbeing, safety as well as everything else, but this does not make you OWN this person. You own furniture, cars, a house, clothing but NOT people.

Circumsion is one of the most cruel things we as a society do to children. We feel that its best for the child when in reality its MUTILATION. You are mutilating, altering, changing something that wouldn't be there if it didn't have a purpose. Would you like something about you changed, mutilated, altered just because you felt it had no purpose or it would cause you less pain (or so those who are responsible for you think :rolleyes: )? Circumsion should be considered abuse. Why should circumsing a male be okay in our society but if the same was done to a female then it would be considered abuse. Ever wonder why? Its the same thing whether done to a female or male. Its abuse!

Spanking, smacking your children is abuse. I don't care what anyone says. How would you like to be hit just because you did something that was wrong or did something that did not please your parents. Teaching authority does not have to mean spanking your child. You can effectively teach your children these very same things without every laying a hand on them. What I find interesting is those parents who spank their children but yet when that same child hits another person becuase they were doing something that they didn't like for whatever reason then they teach that child not to hit. Hypocritical!

Spanking does NOT teach children anything at all. They do not learn that whatever action they made to cause a spanking was wrong for such and such reason. It does not help them think about what they did or anything. It does make children see what they can't do to receive a spanking. So in a sense they fear the person who spanks them.

Its amazing how licenses are required to drive, perform certain types of employment,etc. but yet they allow anyone no matter how ignorant or uneducated to have children. :rolleyes:

Perhaps you should visit a local Florida Department of Children and Families in St. Pete to really learn what abuse is. They offer classes every Saturday on abuse and neglect. You may actually learn something new or see spanking from a different view if you attend one of these classes. I believe they are free to parents.
 
Wow, this thread took a turn in an unexpected direction. Its interesting to see such intense emotion and opinions on the issue of circumsion.
 
SoKlueles said:
Oh brother people get a grip.
Why dont u cut off ur clitoral hood an post how it painless it was and was so much easier to take care of ? Go on , in the interests of fairness it seems only fair , u did it to your kids.....
 
You guys never got spanked as a kid? It is not spare the rod spoil the child...it is Spare the rod. hate the child. I hear kids these days talk to their parents like they are a piece of worthless trash. How is that supposed to be handled? My kids are good kids and they respect themselves and others. I dont beat them just because I get a hangnail.
Kids dont respect anyone these days. My kids dont make fun of other kids, especially not in front of me because they were taught morals and not to do it. I know that some people dont spank their children. That is their perrogative. I choose to spank mine and that is my perrogative. I dont need to go to classes. I know how to raise kids. You can ask anyone I know....my kids are silly, alot of the times they fight, but they are good kids. Actually my 5 year old is a bit of a little smart butt hehe dang hes a doll. If u want to see pics....ill show em. they are some cute kids too. :) bye guys luv ya...just do ur own thing, and the world will be a better place.
 
you guys are whacked, im glad i got my pecker cut on when i was born, who the hell wants a wrinkled, skin flapping in the wind pecker? and you need to beat the shit out of kids or they wont learn, if you think sending them to their room is punishment and that they will learn their lesson from that then you are truly clueless, back in the day parents used to get the belt out and beat kids, and back then their was respect, now we got these liberal pansy ass cock suckers telling us its not right to beat kids, its not politically correct, well all you can suck a dick because you are dead fucking wrong, now go watch some more rosie odonnel then hand yourself form the nearest fucking tree. and nverbuff you cant correllate spanking your kid to chil abuse, thats fucking absurd, no ones talking about getting out a coat hanger and slashing the little shits within an inch of their life, you are foolish
 
SoKlueles said:
You guys never got spanked as a kid? It is not spare the rod spoil the child...it is Spare the rod. hate the child. I hear kids these days talk to their parents like they are a piece of worthless trash. How is that supposed to be handled? My kids are good kids and they respect themselves and others. I dont beat them just because I get a hangnail.
Kids dont respect anyone these days. My kids dont make fun of other kids, especially not in front of me because they were taught morals and not to do it. I know that some people dont spank their children. That is their perrogative. I choose to spank mine and that is my perrogative. I dont need to go to classes. I know how to raise kids. You can ask anyone I know....my kids are silly, alot of the times they fight, but they are good kids. Actually my 5 year old is a bit of a little smart butt hehe dang hes a doll. If u want to see pics....ill show em. they are some cute kids too. :) bye guys luv ya...just do ur own thing, and the world will be a better place.
Actually my Dad did spank me , our relationship never recovered largely as a result and we still barely speak because of it. Your children may have inherited their mother's lack of inquisitiveness but it is more likely that they will wonder why you beat them. I resent my parents for what they did , I have since had the good sense to give my ol man a hiding for what he did and I hope that you get yours too....
Can you honestly say you never raised your hand in anger to your kids? I very much doubt it, from all of my friends who have kids , including a huge man not known for his reticence to get involved in fights all of the well adjusted kids are those not beaten at all. If you need violence to "discipline" your kids then it says a lot for your abilities as a parent. Listen , dont just listen to me , go "discipline" your kids in front of a few social workers , see what happens.... the law takes a dim view of people like you , frankly I think you should be behind bars.
 
I'm snipped and proud of it! Looks like a million bucks and the girls love it. Thank god for my parents choose the right decision for me as I obviously was in no shape to do so myself (as Klueless pointed out). To each to their own. When I have a son someday, out comes the scalpel baby. Oh and I will spank the shit out of my kids when they are bad, its the only form of discipline that worked on me.
 
Oh and Nvr i was spanked as a child....and it made me respect people when i grew up. I dont fear the person that whipped me. Once, my mother told me i couldnt do something when I was a kid, and i went out side and i flipped her a bird., she saw it....yelled at me.....beat my ass......do u think I ever flipped her a bird anymore? helllllll no i didnt cuz i remembered getting my ass whipped.
 
Mandinka2 said:

Just as an aside , my mother chose not to breastfeed her children, and you can be sure that we had quite a few words over that one too. We are all answerable for our actions , and none are we more answerable to than our children. But thankyou nevertheless for coming to the conclusion that the foreskin has a useful purpose and penii should not be mutilated for frivolous reasons. But may I ask you why you feel this way? Education perhaps I wonder?

I belive that when a person is old enough they can make there own decision .
I have been around my husband long enough to hear him say sometimes he wished he was cut, and then other times he is glad he isn't
You said you only know of two males that are cut, but in the USA most men are.I had never heard of people not getting it done ,till I met my husband.
By the way do you have any children?
 
sweetnes11 said:


I belive that when a person is old enough they can make there own decision .
I have been around my husband long enough to hear him say sometimes he wished he was cut, and then other times he is glad he isn't
You said you only know of two males that are cut, but in the USA most men are.I had never heard of people not getting it done ,till I met my husband.
By the way do you have any children?
Well dear , unlike the rumour , men do not really discuss their penii amongst each other , that is more or less a fabrication , I never even looked down in the showers to see. It was only when I noticed that the African kid never took showers with the rest of the team that it dawned on me , and I asked him and he told me that about it , hated that he had been robbed of it (he was a medicine student actually). The other guy I know had it done late in life , then he regretted it to me afterwards after he realised just how uncomfortable it was to have his glans exposed to constant rubbing.
Its bizarre that anyone would have part of their body removed in such a manner , in fact its perverse. Circ is running at around 60% in the USA according to the latest stats , with it being in constant decline , eventually lawsuits will bring it to a dramamtic halt.... god speed that day. Children should never be denied their right to intact genitals.
Oh Im sorry , I have not yet been blessed with children but I can barely wait for that day.....
 
"Not necessarily , muchof your posts are precisely BECAUSE of a perceived stereotype that there are truly a significant proportion of men out there who genuinely HATE women. Many of your comments could reasonably be interpreted in that vein as dissing men. As mentioned earlier , there are feminists who are worth listening (Germaine Greer and Mary Kenny) but thir voices have been drowned out since they recognise that the feminist movement was used as a political tool in the latter half of the 20th century. That is why they are able to see the gross inequities (in favour of women) in many societies (health, marital issues etc.) and not just blindly wave their flags."

I dont' believe women should get more privileges than men because that would make me a stupid hypocrite like most people are. Alot of men HATE women. I'm not saying most but alot do. Most men use the word "slut", "bitch", etc. in reference to a woman. If you even look around these boards you'll see that easily. If someone calls a woman those names I take it as hate, just like a black person would say someone HATES them if they called them or other blacks, niggers. Simple as that. Of course demeaning names for women are not as stigmatized as the word "nigger" but it doesn't make it any less serious.


"Sure I can mystique , you give me the evidence of such issues - it's all over your posts. Men don't hate women , they love them , they do everything they can to love them in fact. Most men are headless chickens without women , all the sexual power resides with women as a consequence of Western society, some choose to wield it irresponsibly and society in turn calls them a few silly names since we haven't come up with any more "civilised" method yet. If a man wields his sexual power it's rape , plenty of men convicted on hearsay"

Yes a woman has sexual power in western society in that she can choose from all the men who hit on her who she decides is worthy of her. I agree that there are double standards for men and I do not agree with that nor did I ever say I did. However many anti-feminists try to take the subject away from women and concentrate on men. If you want to concentrate on men's issues go ahead and I'll reply but this thread is about what WOMEN go through. Women are pressured into being "good girls" whether you agree with it or not. These "silly names" do alot of damage to a girl's self-esteem and the way she thinks she ought to be. Of course simple-minded people will tell girls to just get over it and not care what others think of you, but it's more deeper than that. If you were taught from an early age that sex is dirty, especially if it's warranted by a woman by god's sake, it's kind of hard to not care what others think and still see yourself as a normal "good" human being. Most women are taught that they're "bad" and "dirty by how much they display their sexualit so when others reinforce that belief, most women think of it as true and hate themselves and others like them. I don't see why women are soley told to not care what others think of them while the perpetrators can hurt, repress, and harass people. That's like saying raped victims should not care what others are saying and thinking about them and no punishment is given to the rapists. I never said it's only men that are the perpetrators but many women too. I hear alot of women call other women names out of jealousy, spite, whatever. I agree with dr.goodbody in one of his posts. Women should learn to appreciate and embrace their sexuality instead of rejecting and hating it.
 
Oh and this "responsibility" you say that a woman has because she has more sexual power is ridiculous. You are only responsible for you and not anyone else. I firmly believe in personal responsibility for your actions and thoughts. Blaming others is just an immature cop out. I really don't see having sex with many partners as irresponsible either. You do what you want to with your body and decide on that by whether taking the risk has more benefits to you. Life is all about risks. Some choose to take on risks that others would never contemplate on doing.
 
mystique said:
Oh and this "responsibility" you say that a woman has because she has more sexual power is ridiculous. You are only responsible for you and not anyone else. I firmly believe in personal responsibility for your actions and thoughts. Blaming others is just an immature cop out. I really don't see having sex with many partners as irresponsible either. You do what you want to with your body and decide on that by whether taking the risk has more benefits to you. Life is all about risks. Some choose to take on risks that others would never contemplate on doing.
Very few if any people manage to be promiscuous without lying to others , many times themselves. That is why we use the phrase "cheating". We legislate for the fact that men have more physical power by throwing them in the slammer if they use their advantage on women , why should it be any different in the sexual arena?
 
Mandinka2 said:

Very few if any people manage to be promiscuous without lying to others , many times themselves. That is why we use the phrase "cheating". We legislate for the fact that men have more physical power by throwing them in the slammer if they use their advantage on women , why should it be any different in the sexual arena?

You're kidding right? You are joking, right?

You must be the site antagonist, just saying whatever to get a rise out of people.
 
I will never understand Madinka is so bent out of shape about what Americans are doing with their children's genitals.
All of the following countries have circumcision rates between 75-100%:

Stop trying to define what we should consider normal or acceptable.
North and West Africa plus much of East Africa, eg Algeria, Cameroon, Chad, Dahomey, Egypt (Muslim and Christian), Ethiopia, Gabon, Gambia, Guinea, Ivory Coast, Kenya. Libya, Madagascar, Mali, Mauretania, Morocco, Niger, Nigeria, Senegal, Sierra Leone, Somalia, Sudan, Tanzania, Togo, Tunisia, Northern Uganda, Upper Volta, Zaire [NB, some of these now have new names but it would be a real surprise if most of the guys there had grown new foreskins as a result.). Plus the Islamic areas of Asia - Afghanistan, Bahrein, Bangladesh, Indonesia (largest Muslim nation), Iran, Iraq, Israel [OK not Muslim], Jordan, Kuwait, Oman, Pakistan, (Hindu minority about 10%), Qatar, Saudi Arabia, Syria, Turkey, UAE, Yemen (N+S). Plus Tonga and Samoa, with Canada and the US at the bottom end of the range.

This accounts for 25% of the world's population, average 87.5% cut = 22.75%. I guess you've got alot of work to do.
 
Mandinka seems to be very upset about circumsized dicks.I think he is angry because at some time in his life a female was freaked out buy his uncircumsized dick.He is really angry at his parents for not circumsizing him.So he places all his anger in these meaningless posts.You really have to feel bad for this person.

Also I thank god my parents circumsized me.I would be so embarassed to have that kind of dick.
 
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