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Fat Loss And Hiit

jpt said:
Before I Started Following Hiit I Would Jog On The Treadmill At 6.0 For About 45 Minutes....now I've Been Doing Hiit For The Last Month Or So Only Doing About 20 Minutes.....4.0 Then 8.5 On Either 1 Or 2 Incline. My Legs Are Def More Tired After Doing Hiit....and I'm Pretty Much As Exahusted As Wehn I Used To Run At 6.0....but I Used To Burn More Cals...roughly Around 500 In 40-45 Minutes....now I'm Burning About 280-300 Cals.....just From My Personal Experience With It (others May Feel Different) I Think Hiit Is A Great Tool If Im In A Rush, But I Think I See Better Results From Medium Intensity With Longer Sessions. How Do You Guys Feel?

It's much easier to get results from sprinting, not only outside but, not on a treadmill. The idea behind HIIT Running/Sprinting is based on short 30sec/60sec intervals where you RUN @ your MAX sprint for 30sec then a very slow jog/walk for 60sec. A treadmill just cannot/will not replace the effort you need to:

1) propell your body to its MAX and
2) give you your MAX running speed

Doing this for 30 mins WILL burn more cals than slow steady state for 60 mins it's just the machine you are on does not have the capability to give you real HIIT. I am in no way saying steady state does not have its place because for some, this is what they are accustomed to and it works for them. In my experience plus 3 of my personal friends, from doing both, real HIIT running/sprints give you better results of actual bf% loss versus steady state.
 
devcon said:
It's much easier to get results from sprinting, not only outside but, not on a treadmill. The idea behind HIIT Running/Sprinting is based on short 30sec/60sec intervals where you RUN @ your MAX sprint for 30sec then a very slow jog/walk for 60sec. A treadmill just cannot/will not replace the effort you need to:

1) propell your body to its MAX and
2) give you your MAX running speed

Doing this for 30 mins WILL burn more cals than slow steady state for 60 mins it's just the machine you are on does not have the capability to give you real HIIT. I am in no way saying steady state does not have its place because for some, this is what they are accustomed to and it works for them. In my experience plus 3 of my personal friends, from doing both, real HIIT running/sprints give you better results of actual bf% loss versus steady state.


Yepper. My clients all bitch and moan about the harshness of HIIT when the first jump onto the Elipticals (best machine for HIIT in my opinion) but after 30 days they are all friggin HIIT Zealots!!! Even the other trainers i have pushed/guilted into really REALLY pushing their limits with HIIT are now totally singing its praises.

I am just wrapped way too tight for LSD style cardio. Life has me running uphill and to SLOW down to do cardio?!! Nope. Cant handle it. I end up cheating by saying, 'Fuck this, LETS ROCK!' and slipping up to about 80%-85% and screwing the Llama as far as fat loss. So i gotta do HIIT, i cant really handle any other way, too high strung these days.

A close friend of mine, bless her heart, said, 'C., you're wrapped so tight if you swallowed coal you would shit diamonds.'

:lmao:
 
To each his own I guess. Both have their place in losing bodyfat. I was a wrestler so I guess I can say that yes, I lost bodyfat doing HIIT during practice. And after college I also got rid of any off season bodyfat doing 60 minutes of light jogging while maintaining heavy lifts. The goal of any type of aerobic training should be to gain endurance and increase stamina over times regardless if the person wants to lose weight or not. I don't think any one training protocol is "better" than the other however. (It's like Mike Mentzer saying Heavy Duty is the absolute best way to grow.) Arnold and most of the other bodybuilders in the 70's never did aerobics at all and a lot of the top bodybuilders in the 90's and today still do LSD twice a day and come in great shape come contest day. Experiment with what works best for you. :coffee:
 
alex2678 said:
To each his own I guess. Both have their place in losing bodyfat. I was a wrestler so I guess I can say that yes, I lost bodyfat doing HIIT during practice. And after college I also got rid of any off season bodyfat doing 60 minutes of light jogging while maintaining heavy lifts. The goal of any type of aerobic training should be to gain endurance and increase stamina over times regardless if the person wants to lose weight or not. I don't think any one training protocol is "better" than the other however. (It's like Mike Mentzer saying Heavy Duty is the absolute best way to grow.) Arnold and most of the other bodybuilders in the 70's never did aerobics at all and a lot of the top bodybuilders in the 90's and today still do LSD twice a day and come in great shape come contest day. Experiment with what works best for you. :coffee:


Cheers to that, mon.
 
alex2678 said:
To each his own I guess. Both have their place in losing bodyfat. I was a wrestler so I guess I can say that yes, I lost bodyfat doing HIIT during practice. And after college I also got rid of any off season bodyfat doing 60 minutes of light jogging while maintaining heavy lifts. The goal of any type of aerobic training should be to gain endurance and increase stamina over times regardless if the person wants to lose weight or not. I don't think any one training protocol is "better" than the other however. (It's like Mike Mentzer saying Heavy Duty is the absolute best way to grow.) Arnold and most of the other bodybuilders in the 70's never did aerobics at all and a lot of the top bodybuilders in the 90's and today still do LSD twice a day and come in great shape come contest day. Experiment with what works best for you. :coffee:

I agree with 'experimenting for yourself to find best results'. I know some don't have access to outdoors or just don't like/can't handle HIIT. In high school a couple of my friends where sprinters and all caried much more mass/low bf% appearance-wise in comparison to the cross-country runners. The sprinters had the bb type bodies and the cross-country team were pencil necked. Not to say that the long distance runners didn't have lower bf%, as most runners have lower bf% than bb and also much less mass but, the appearance of the sprinters I think in general are most representative of a bb IMO and this goes for all HIIT sports body types.
 
I've done both - I prefer HIIT because it gets done faster - when the only time I get to myself is when I'm on the highway hauling ass to get to the gym / from the gym/ to work / from work, I don't' really enjoy the idea of 2 x 1 hr sessions for competition. I did that last year as my trainer at the time didn't beleive in interval cardio. As a result I have just about NO KICK at all -- all cardio is conditioning and when you lose that type of kick I think you self-screw. I'd suggest mixing the two vs one or the other only.
 
All good posts above. LSD or HIIT, I think they both have their place for either losing fat or improving general conditioning. I haven't done any intentional HIIT aside from the wrestling, but I'm still able to get a mile run in just over 6:30 and still have plenty of "air" left. Not the greatest way to measure progress but I like to think it's somewhat "heart healthy".

I'm still gonna try out the HIIT next time I cut. I've been getting done with my workouts at around 1:00 am lately and can't see myself doing an hour long cardio session at the end of my weight workouts. And I just got pulled over last week for no reason other than "what are you doing out so late on a weeknight" My response: "I just got done doing legs." ;)
 
alex2678 said:
All good posts above. LSD or HIIT, I think they both have their place for either losing fat or improving general conditioning. I haven't done any intentional HIIT aside from the wrestling, but I'm still able to get a mile run in just over 6:30 and still have plenty of "air" left. Not the greatest way to measure progress but I like to think it's somewhat "heart healthy".

I'm still gonna try out the HIIT next time I cut. I've been getting done with my workouts at around 1:00 am lately and can't see myself doing an hour long cardio session at the end of my weight workouts. And I just got pulled over last week for no reason other than "what are you doing out so late on a weeknight" My response: "I just got done doing legs." ;)
:FRlol:

NICE! .. I just got the sprints back in .. & plyo work ... & I will shred up hella quick ... After one day of sprinting last week ... the next morning my legs were like *BAM* :verygood: ... so I figured, time to turn it up a notch. :)

I do HIIT & various cardio ... my opinion is so mixed on this ... cardio & training is my Prozac ... Back to the post, there's a lot of good info & suggestions here but word for word... "Experiment with what works best for you" ...

Ghede great links/post :rose:

Happy training :)
 
*Bunny* said:
:FRlol:

NICE! .. I just got the sprints back in .. & plyo work ... & I will shred up hella quick ... After one day of sprinting last week ... the next morning my legs were like *BAM* :verygood: ... so I figured, time to turn it up a notch. :)

I do HIIT & various cardio ... my opinion is so mixed on this ... cardio & training is my Prozac ... Back to the post, there's a lot of good info & suggestions here but word for word... "Experiment with what works best for you" ...

Ghede great links/post :rose:

Happy training :)

Good gawd.. heavy back and core... 3 sets of One arm plate rows, six a side followed by 3 sets of 8 of Hanging Inverted Pikes, toes to the Ceiling... YOWZA!!!! :chomp: :chomp:

... not HIIT tonight though, thats a morning party for me... :D
 
HIIT on a empty stomach caused the most changes in my body in a short period of time. Its amazing how much more endurance and speed you will build in a short time. Not only that. HIIT fits into my scedual better. I dont want to wake up an hour early to do a hour walk. I rather do a 25 min run around the block. But whatever works for you. Im not real big into TONS of scientific research but I do plenty... i let my body be the judge.
 
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