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Exactally, and I've come to the same conclusion. I've added a considerable amount of size to my bicepts in the last year by simply making sure I move nothing but my elbow joint while doing barbell curls (this means raising the bar no higher than one's nipples).Silent Method said:In as much as shoulder flexion during barbell curls is cheating, drag curls are cheating as well. When targeting the elbow flexors for maximum recruitment and tension with a barbell curl, a fixed shoulder extension (not hyperextension) is superior to either shoulder flexion or hyperextension.