deadlifts

[elijah]

Deads are Good stuf (tm)

Pull ups are great for your back and are deads, don't drop them listen to Phenom!
Wanna really feel your whole back burning in that good pain? yeah I thought so hehehe try this
(Very evil super set here )
Have your dead bar ready and loaded, and maybe some dumbells

Pull ups to failure (use weight if this means over 10 pullups)
Do a set of 8 to 10 deads, but at the top of each deadlift, roll your shoulders all the way back, then do a shrug with the bar, or if its to heave to shrug, after your set use the dumbels and do 8 to 10 shrugs.
And lastly do 8 to 10 Wide grip t bar rows.

try this for three super sets and see whatcha think. I wouldn't suggest this on a regular basis, just occasionally to really pound your back.

 

[Superbabe]

Elijah, that's EVIL man, you sick mofo .... hehehehe.....

 

[elijah]

Evil, yes, fun even more so

Yep its superbabe I'm evil and like to torture myself in the gym. Some days I walk in and do the most painfull (the healthy kind of pain) exercises I can, especially during ckd diets I'll find huge supersets very effective at replacing cardio.
Typical week in ckd training

Saturday for depletion, and a little muscle building
Super set 4x10
Pullups
Dips

Super set 4x10
Squat (with 25lb plates under my toes, and do a calf raise at the top of each set)
sldl Deadlift w/ shoulder rll

Super set 4x10
Wide grip pull up/pull down
Incline bech with shoulder raise at the end

Super set 4x10
Leg press, all the way down
Calf raises on leg press machine with out getting off to failure
Situps (with legs off the ground to failure)
Barbell curls
Negative only dips, slow

THen I limp back to my truck and thank God for keeping me safe and energised for the session.

Normal work outs all week

 

[buffal2001]

Hey guys.....stop it with the shit!!!!!!! I went in to the supplement shop with WPH and the guy was dead serious(no pun here). We are 17 years old and he seems to feel that we are too young to deadlift incase we fuck ourselves up......Seriously guys this man knew his shit and told us wed benefit more from other back exercises(e.g chins, rows etc...........). So people cut out the shit and tell us what we really should do.
Cheers

 

[Phemomena]

Hey guys.....stop it with the shit!!!!!!! I went in to the supplement shop with WPH and the guy was dead serious(no pun here). We are 17 years old and he seems to feel that we are too young to deadlift incase we fuck ourselves up......Seriously guys this man knew his shit and told us wed benefit more from other back exercises(e.g chins, rows etc...........). So people cut out the shit and tell us what we really should do.
Cheers

are you experiencing pain? is the movement difficult for you to perform? and most importantly, are you working with bad form?

if the answer to ANY of these is YES, then you should definately NOT be doing dls... if the answer is NO, to ALL of these, then there isn't really any reason why you should not perform this lift.... just do it smartly and carefully... if you want to do these lifts and are worried, don't go overly heavy... do a moderate weight that you can handle with correct, strict form...

i personally don't believe that age is a deciding factor for leaving any exercise out, as long as common sense, good form and moderate weights are all involved...

(i.e. if a 16 yr old wants to squat or deadlift, he/she should do the exercise... just do the bar or light weights... bringing these great compound movements into your program early will give you a lot of practice with great form and get your body accustomed to the movement, so, when you are ready, experienced enough and confident about it, you can add the weight and avoid injury... i don't believe anyone, young or old, should do heavy squats/deadlifts without a serious base under their belts...these are great exercises, when performed correctly... real killers when not... )

BUT... all said and done, it's your body and your choice... if you dont want to do 'em, don't do 'em... many people have provided you with a lot of other options... stop complaining about the responses you are getting... no one is forcing you to do them!!

 

[strongchick]

I wish someone had said "DO DEADLIFTS" when I was 16.

If you want a GREAT ass and powerful beautiful legs, do deadlifts. If not, don't.

My brother lifted heavy at sixteen, and he's 5'11 and half now, an inch taller than my dad.

I know a guy that DID stunt his growth, he believes, because he was a high school wrestler, and didn't eat anything for days to make his weight category. He did this for three years off and on. He is now barely 5'6", even though his mother is 5'8" and his dad his 6'0".

Not scientific data...not a real lab with controls. But common sense should reign.

look at the following link for more info on deadlifts and why most males that weight train and overlook deads have weak lower bodies--deadlifts, remember, also are great for legs (I know you want to train back...but why have noodle legs and flat ass if you don't have to?):

deadlift link

 

[Bobba]

Bobba, u ass clown, my back is my best bodypart, and i have been doing deadlifts for close to 2 years now. but as i am only 17 years old, a friend of mine said they should be avoided.....dont try and give out a shit answer like that again, if you have only been training a year, dont try and give out an impression that u are a seasoned lifter, i dont want a lower back injury at all in my life, and weights are my life, so if deads fuck up my shit right now think how fucked i will be when i am older.

I didn't say I've only been lifting for a year, I said i had been doing HEAVY deadlifts for a year. With heavy deadlifts I meen 5 reps and less. Lifting weights has been my life the last 4-5years so I do have some experience to back me up.

Unless you are still growing I don't see any reason to avoid heavy deadlifts. However you do seem very imature for your age...

 

[MonStar1023]

Everyone always says that heavy deads are the greatest exercise for bulking up your traps big time but I was wondering arent they just a static contractions for your traps. Your really just squeezing the life outta your traps at the top of the movemet. Almost like the bottom portion of a shrug really feeling the stretch. I want some of your guys opinions on this. I agree that deads are great for thickening up your entire back especially your middle traps etc... but I just cant figure out how. Arent the traps designed to lift the shoulder girdle? Shrugs, upright rows..?

 

[buffal2001]

bobba fuck off you faggot!!

 

[Burning_Inside]

Last time I checked, the docs said I had a herniated disk in my lower back (about maybe 5 years ago).

Last time I checked, I didn't do deadlifts with strict form, despite what people sometimes come up to me and tell me in the gym, and I just tell them "i know it's not the form you're used to, but it's my form and I like it". I don't go all the way down and squat, my legs get sort of close to parralell to the ground when I bend over, and that's about it. I'd rather not work legs too much with my back, I do deads for my back, not my ass and legs, that's what squats are for, if no one likes that, they can kiss my ass. I do the form that I'm comfortable with.

And last time I checked, my weight on deadlifts have been going up on a weekly basis, last lift was 220 for 8.

And...Last time I checked....My back's feeling about as good as it ever did since I had that so called herniated disk. (i personally don't think it was as bad as they said, or I wouldn't be able to deadlift at all).

So are deadlifts bad? In my opinion, hell no.