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Deadlift rut

b fold - he asked what to do. I told him. Somehow people get offended and start talking about 5x5 and crying about how I called it volume training and sometimes I call volume training bullshit, and acting like a detective or something--who gives a fuck, I mean SERIOUSLY, LIGHTEN UP PEOPLE. I never tried to start a flame war, blkws6 did. I wouldn't care, why should you? If you can be nice about how bodybuilding magazine routines have plagued the training world for decades with their volume routines--more power to you. I don't accept it, they've caused countless trainees to fail, and give up frustrated, or get injured, or turn to roids because they can't gain on those routines without them. "Bullshit" is WAY too nice of a term for what they've done. If you disagree, fine, but the internet is a place for sharing ones views, and that is my view.

And I don't mind people putting down my routine. However considering all the people on this board who are doing it "correctly" are loving it, that hasn't been a problem. Just as I expected. What I do think is lame is people not doing the program correctly, doing it half assed, and not following the diet, or stretching, or some other facet when DC has repeatedly stated that they all go together. Then they come on a board and say something like "I was overtrained" or "I didn't make gains." Then you find out that they did more sets, or more rest pause, or didn't allow themselves enough recovery days, or didn't stretch, or didn't eat correctly. That's their problem and they shouldn't represent the program. FEEL FREE to put down the program, if you gave it an honest shot (every part). But you wanna know the funny thing? I've never seen a SINGLE PERSON DO IT. This is out of hundreds and hundreds of people, BTW.

Oak, it's all in the sticky, and in your words "stop crying do you want me to hold your hand?" I posted that sticky FOR YOU remember? Use it.
 
Here are ways to get your deadlift to go up.

First, identify your weaknesses.

If you are having problems with the lower portion, focus in working on hamstring flexibility and lower back strength. Here are some options:

STIFF LEG DEADS - this is a compound movement that will strengthen the hamstrings, buttocks, and lower back. Make sure to keep the back flat.

HYPEREXTENSIONS - Another great exercise that will help keep the back strengthen and will protect you from injury.

To strengthen the weakness of the mid-point.

LATS - make sure that your lats are strong, supported T-Bar rows and barbell rows should work. They are perfect for adding additional strength.

Upper portion of the deadlift:

PARTIAL DEADLIFTS - set the bars at knee level. When executing the movement make sure your butt is out and your back is flat. Focus on putting your shoulders back as if you were completing in a powerlifting competition.

SHRUGS - If you cannot finish the movement, it is typically a sign of weak traps. I recommend heavy barbell or dumbbell shurgs using reps between 5 and 8.

These are a few suggestions. Be sure to work on the weak points.
 
Debaser said:
b fold - he asked what to do. I told him. Somehow people get offended and start talking about 5x5 and crying about how I called it volume training and sometimes I call volume training bullshit, and acting like a detective or something--who gives a fuck, I mean SERIOUSLY, LIGHTEN UP PEOPLE. I never tried to start a flame war, blkws6 did. I wouldn't care, why should you? If you can be nice about how bodybuilding magazine routines have plagued the training world for decades with their volume routines--more power to you. I don't accept it, they've caused countless trainees to fail, and give up frustrated, or get injured, or turn to roids because they can't gain on those routines without them. "Bullshit" is WAY too nice of a term for what they've done. If you disagree, fine, but the internet is a place for sharing ones views, and that is my view.

I'm going to say this ONE more time...then I am going to suggest that you no longer be here on this board. I, for one, don't appreciate your attitude towards myself or towards others...at all.

I think that this needs to either end...or someone needs to leave. Simple as that.

I am asking you nicely...either change your attitude or move to another board. We are friendly here and we do not want anyone or anything to disrupt that. You have your thoughts and ideas...so present them. If people don't want to take your advice...then let it be. Don't spend your time putting down other people's lifts or routines...unless you don't mind other people putting down yours.

Once again...change your attitude or leave.

B True
 
BlkWS6 said:
Wow guldukat Im glad to see you too took a logic course, and I must say I have never seen someone actually break down an argument on the Internet and bring up straw man that is hilarious (did you use a textbook?).
:D I was like that after I took a critical thinking class when I started college. Always looking for an excuse to use the big funny words:D
 
Originally posted by Thaibox

:D I was like that after I took a critical thinking class when I started college. Always looking for an excuse to use the big funny words:D


Hahahah yeah at first I didnt think he was serious. I was having flashbacks of my sophomore year in college as I read that! ahhhh. (btw. Thai hows that Camaro running bro?)
 
I had to swap my cam and tweak the hell out of it to get it to smog, but it passed. I've gotta sell it now. If I get what I'm asking for it, I'll lose about $13k on the damn thing.:(
How is pontiac world treating you?
 
b fold the truth said:


I'm going to say this ONE more time...then I am going to suggest that you no longer be here on this board. I, for one, don't appreciate your attitude towards myself or towards others...at all.

I think that this needs to either end...or someone needs to leave. Simple as that.

I am asking you nicely...either change your attitude or move to another board. We are friendly here and we do not want anyone or anything to disrupt that. You have your thoughts and ideas...so present them. If people don't want to take your advice...then let it be. Don't spend your time putting down other people's lifts or routines...unless you don't mind other people putting down yours.

Once again...change your attitude or leave.

B True

b fold the truth said:


I'm going to say this ONE more time...then I am going to suggest that you no longer be here on this board. I, for one, don't appreciate your attitude towards myself or towards others...at all.

I think that this needs to either end...or someone needs to leave. Simple as that.

I am asking you nicely...either change your attitude or move to another board. We are friendly here and we do not want anyone or anything to disrupt that. You have your thoughts and ideas...so present them. If people don't want to take your advice...then let it be. Don't spend your time putting down other people's lifts or routines...unless you don't mind other people putting down yours.

Once again...change your attitude or leave.

B True

B Fold...I thinkl you are wrong! This board is mainly comprised of MEN...and when men get together and dicuss a topic...sometime they argue....almost every thread in here is some sort of arguement or another...one post will generate 15 different answers to the same question...if I contradict your answer...is that not an argument???

Though my post count doesn't show it (lost around 1000 posts in the hacker attack) I have been with this sight for more the 4 years...sometime i drift off..but I return from time to time ..to see how the board has changed ( usually the same stupid question 5 times on one page)...but occasionally a thread like this sparks my intrests...and many others as well...there are 75 posts on this thread..and as of me writing this 587 views...sounds to me as though people are not intrested in you moderating this thread with your politically correct views.

Political correctness was fostered by women trying to modify the actions and thoughts of men, by infuluencing there husbands and sons..we don't need it here...give us someplace to go where we don't have to cow-tow to everyones feelings..let men be men ..and if the women want to join in ...more power to them!

You say that we are nice people here and we don't flame people , to insight there emotions..( I paraphrased) ...if that is so ...then why do we have all of the following similies :mad: :mix: and more???? ( it wouldn't let me post them all)

It used to be yopu could flame the snot out of someone for being stupid, and half the time the moderators would join in!
 
Agreed, you guys should come to fucking animal's board if you think I am "flaming." hahah
 
Flaming for a reason is one thing. Having a poor attitude and being annoyingly disrespectful for the sake of arrogant preaching is another. b-fold is simply recognizing that debasser has a poor attitude and close mind. A combination no one likes to deal with.
 
debaser - you seem to know a lot about DC and are a good advocate, you got me very interested in it. I think you would get a lot more people to realy listen to you and a lot more respect for your views and for DC training if you just took the chip off your shoulder, and if people have their views and are devoted to a style of training, just let them be and move on with those who do want your assistance
 
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