cutting journal

[jeremys]

this is it. it's going to happen. i've stalled and whined and made excuses. i've tried to change priorities. i've made probably 5-6 other 'training journals' but this has to happen. 25% bodyfat is just fackin unacceptable, no matter what i choose to do.

split for now will be whatever i have to do in gym class for a couple weeks. all i know is that it consists of benching and squatting 2x a week.

diet will be CKD. i started with a half-week so i'm going to wait until this weekend for my 12-24 hour carb-up. i'm looking very flat and very small due to being depleted. so i vow to myself not to sit and try to pose every morning and night, lol. hopefully the changes will seem quicker.

workouts will be whatever i can handle, but i can't try to build any mass or strength while being depleted and having under 20g carbs a day. so they will just be depletion/volume workouts with light weight.

for rehab for my back, i stretch 3 times a day and i plan on doing some excercises 3-4 times a week. things such as lying pelvic thrusts, light good mornings, and band pull-throughs.

..off to do bi's and chest right now. figured i'd add them in this week on their own day since they're somewhat weak points and i could use a little pump action. also a snow day today, so i need something to do

 

[jeremys]

2-3 chest and bi's

DB curls: 20x15, 25x12, 35x8
incline bench: 135x12, 145x10, 150x8

off to suck down some more canola oil and cook some more kielbasa. eck

 

[gettinlarger]

Best of luck to you jeremy. Let us know how you are progressing.

 

[louden_swain]

Good luck!!

I hoper your back is better!!

 

[PolishHammer1977]

Keep on it brother. Keep posting!

 

[DrBones]

YOu can do it bro!

I'm in the process of dropping some lbs right now too...
Can't wait to see what you look like once your done dropping the bodyfat!

 

[jeremys]

i'll try to get and post pics when im done, but for now, i'm a work in progress.

i'm very paranoid about losing good mass though...and it'll be hard with gym class (EXCESSIVE cardio). ANYBODY have any ideas? i've asked about this a couple times but maybe all i can do is half-ass as much as i can?

 

[casualbb]

I know you were about to give HST a try awhile ago. I'd say reconsider it. The light work won't aggravate your back. Plus HST, past the point of being good for retaining mass while dieting, actually has most people seeing LBM GAINS while dieting.

-casualbb

 

[jeremys]

it seems like a good idea, but on a CKD, my muscular glycogen levels are totally depleted. i have no energy, and it's almost impossible to retain muscle, since a person eats under 20 grams of carbs a day under this.

please, somebody prove me wrong. lol

 

[nclifter6feet6]

i dont think you will loose much muscle, you will look flat but you wont loose much muscle at your age. your what 15 or 16? dont sweat it

i went on diets before where i would eat only about 180-200 grams of protien with no carbs and no fats and got ripped and didnt loose hardly any muscle at all.

as u get older then you would probably tend to loose more muscle on severe diets


if your having trouble with the ckd why dont you try a different approach like moderate carbs and very low fat like 100-120 carbs and 15 fats and 170 protiens

good luck

 

[jeremys]

today i did: pullups, bent-over rows, yates rows, DB rows, CG bench, and DB extensions.

the weights were insanely light, and they were all i could handle. these are just depletion workouts anyways.

i was feeling a little lethargic off and on today. it happens.

every day in gym class, we have to do a 1/4 mile warmup run. now if i'm huffing and puffing doing this every day, and i can't handle enough volume in my workouts, something's gotta get sacrificed. i'll just show up everyday and go through the motions, cut corners, etc. i'll at least pass

 

[jeremys]

today was carb-up.

i got really bad shin splits during gym class today. pretty damn painful.

came home, did a very quick upper body 'depletion' workout, but there wasn't many sets involved.

pigged out on pizza, breadsticks, had a can of soda, a boal of oatmeal, and some milk in my casein shake. finally!

ALA was icing on the cake. made me feel good

 

[jeremys]

trying to get back into ketosis. i don't have any ketostix so i don't really know for sure, but i just guess.

it sucks trying to eat so much fat and so little protein this first day. downing canola oil is fricking gross.

my weight is at 250, after a carb-up. was 260 when i started.

getting down to 225, hopefully ~10% then

 

[jeremys]

my knees and right ankle hurt off and on. i find that i remain sore from my workouts for at least a couple days.

the weights i handle are pathetic. also, my muscles are very flat and soft (shrunken) and all the fat is still there, so i look worse.


i wish this would go faster. lol

 

[jeremys]

i find that i have diarrhea very often. at least half the week. this happened the last time i did CKD (for a week). this happened when bulking also, but not nearly as much.

maybe it's the venison i'm eating? i have no idea

 

[nclifter6feet6]

trying to get back into ketosis. i don't have any ketostix so i don't really know for sure, but i just guess.

it sucks trying to eat so much fat and so little protein this first day. downing canola oil is fricking gross.

my weight is at 250, after a carb-up. was 260 when i started.

getting down to 225, hopefully ~10% then

dude man think about it. do you think drinkin canola oil just for the sake of ketosis will make you loose fat??????think about it man........it wont

eat real low fat and moderate carbs moderate protien and you wont feel the ups and downs of a no carb diet, youll feel alot better mentally and psycially. and you wont look flat like you do on ketos

good luck my man

 

[jeremys]

makes sense to me. use fat for energy

CKD has produced results for many people. i just gotta find out how it works for me

 

[nclifter6feet6]

makes sense to me. use fat for energy

CKD has produced results for many people. i just gotta find out how it works for me

use fat that your eating for energy does NOT make any sense to me.

use your BODYFAT for energy

i think ckd's and diets like that are mainly internet HYPE i never see anyone doing these crazy diets at my gym or places like that.

people drop fat and lower carbs not ckd's on the internet is a different story

but thats atleast where i come from, north carolina and we may be a little slow too so who knows man good luck

 

[louden_swain]

What exactly are you training for?

strongman?
powerlifting?
bodybuilding?
athletics?

I don't understand the reason for cutting. With extremely hard training and dedication fat loss will come natural. It is time to set some goals, get some focus, improve the diet, and step up the intensity.

With these important tools, your training will be successful. Right now, It seems like you are dilly dallying with various programs.

I wish you luck!

 

[Shades McCool]

I just cut some bad stuff out. I dont many sugars at all anymore. I dont eat a lot of carbs. I eat a lot of protien. I just work out hard and I have lost a good deal of bodyfat just from that. I think it would work for you too. You just need to make up your mind on what are trying to accomplish.

 

[jeremys]

i was at 25% bodyfat. that's way too high, no matter what i do in life. i'm thinking bodybuilding...but it's pathetic how many times i've switched back and forth between things. strongman is definitely interesting and i've learned a bit about reading, but i dont know.

nclifter, how many people at your gym are top level competitors?

as soon as i get to about 13-15%, i'm just going to cycle carbs.

 

[jeremys]

I just cut some bad stuff out. I dont many sugars at all anymore. I dont eat a lot of carbs. I eat a lot of protien. I just work out hard and I have lost a good deal of bodyfat just from that. I think it would work for you too. You just need to make up your mind on what are trying to accomplish.

the fat i got accumulated because i hurt my back, couldn't lift, yet tried to eat like i was still bulking to keep my mass. i kept most of the mass, but i gained a lot of fat.

as soon as i could do most lifts, i ate VERY cleanly. the worst thing i ate was the occasional couple slices of pizza. i actually gained more fat while being more active and eating like this. there's just a point, when a lot becomes too much

 

[nclifter6feet6]

i was at 25% bodyfat. that's way too high, no matter what i do in life. i'm thinking bodybuilding...but it's pathetic how many times i've switched back and forth between things. strongman is definitely interesting and i've learned a bit about reading, but i dont know.

nclifter, how many people at your gym are top level competitors?

as soon as i get to about 13-15%, i'm just going to cycle carbs.

any gym ive been to ive never heard of any one cutting on a ckd ive only heard this on certain internet boards. you can check out alot of natural bodybuilder webpages and they dont do ckd's. i could go on about so and so has this bodyfat and is this big, but no need to get into that. you can take my word or ignore man just trying to help you man because i see you post alot and you seem confused yet your still 25 percent bodyfat as u say, good luck.

 

[jeremys]

thanks for the words. i will probably do something else besides a ckd as soon as my composition is back to normal. it's just that this works for very fat people (me) so of course, faster is better.

i think i'm at 22-23% right now

 

[jeremys]

valentine's day

i couldn't wait until today but now that i'm eating carbs, all i want to do is pound the shit out of certain fuckers. it's been like this for a couple weeks now, but the diet isn't suffering TOO bad.

 

[jeremys]

today i went outside (the sun is finally shining ) and ran about 4 slow sprints. i'm suprised at how much farther i can run and what my endurance is like compared to 2-3 weeks ago.

i have a horrible shin splint that hurts pretty bad, even when sitting. it's just the one thorn in my side that keeps things realistic. i feel like a god

i think i'm going to include cardio when im bulking. just a little..to keep fat down and just for how great it makes me feel

 

[abc 1]

ckd diets work by releasing fat in your blood for energy. if carbs are present your own fat is not released.

are you taking in enough fat?

i am on @ 160 to 180 g protein a day, 100 g fat, 50 to 60 g carbs and i feel incredible and the fat is slowly coming off while my muscle is being retained.

i would not go with the moderate carb/moderate protein/low fat diet because you'll be soft and flat all the time. i've done it. stick with the plan you have, maybe add 20 or 30 grams of carbs a day in extra vegetables. it may help alittle. if not, add alittle more protein. stick with it, you will eventually find what works. it's taken me @ 14 months to figure out wat worked for me, including ignoring half the info the "guru's" on this board give me. mr. x knows his shit. i listen to him now.

 

[jeremys]

the bodyopus CKD plan has a certain set of ratios that's too tedious for me to calculate every week. takes about 15 minutes for me w/ a calculator. lol

i just get 1g protein per pound of lean body mass. fat over 200g every day. except for the day after carb-up, where i get about 250-260g fat and about 100g pro

carb-ups are fun, but it sucks looking flat as hell most of the week

 

[jeremys]

been exactly 3 weeks today. feel good, but i wish it would go faster. lol..

i'm going to buy some calipers if i ever can, to track progress.

i'm guessing i weigh in the high 240's

 

[jeremys]

i have 5 hours left until the end of my carb-up. all week long i couldn't wait, but nothing really tastes that great

i haven't checked the scale yet. just the mirror. no dramatic changes, obviously..

i feel very fucking small, and i am. i have no real shape, just a shitload of fat covering some tiny muscles. it's the worst feeling in the world to know this.

i'll probably look like a goddamn men's health model by the time i'm done with this.

the next time i bulk, it's going to be fairly clean and i'm going to do enough cardio. i'm never going above ~16% bodyfat again

 

[jeremys]

i feel very fucking small, and i am. i have no real shape, just a shitload of fat covering some tiny muscles. it's the worst feeling in the world to know this.

false alarm. i just checked the mirror and i'm still all here. anybody find a miracle cure for stretch marks though?

i have them on my calves, my quads, my hams, my ass, my love handles, my left lat, both biceps, and both pec/delt tie-ins. its disgusting

 

[Deepsquat]

here is a great place to buy all your supps ..Bodyfat calipers are only 11.99 http://store.yahoo.com/esupp/accal.html

 

[jeremys]

i don't have a credit card, parents wont let me use theirs...think there's some calipers at the local walmart or mall? i'm leaving for town in a couple hours so i might be able to find some somewhere, if i knew where to look

 

[Deepsquat]

go to a GNC

 

[jeremys]

never got a chance to go to GNC. i'll just go by the mirror

my weight this morning (~18 hours after carb-up) was 245, but water weight is always going back on forth with keto diets so i can't really go by the scale.

got some stacker 2, anybody ever tried it? i'm debating on wether i should use it now or when i get to like 13% or so..but spring break's coming up, and we have a swimming unit for gym class coming up too. lol..gotta look pretty

 

[gmanlax7]

use the stacker now, you can always get another bottle when you get to 13%, it will help you get there quicker. I heard its real good. stop chugging the canola oil too, that cant be helping your cause

 

[jeremys]

use the stacker now, you can always get another bottle when you get to 13%, it will help you get there quicker. I heard its real good. stop chugging the canola oil too, that cant be helping your cause

the canola oil is the cheapest and therefore only way for me to get enough dietary fat for the day

 

[louden_swain]

Jeremy,

I am under the impression that you are putting too much thought about certain things. The key to losing fat is to build up your metabolism and learn how to trick your metabolism. Tricking your metabolism is based on the types of foods you eat Eating no carbs is certainly not healthy. Never ever deprive yourself of nutrition!!! Make sure water intake is high.

You must learn how to train your ass off and burn more calories than you are eating. As far as training is concerned, you must sweat!!! Are you sweating? If you aren't losing 2 to 3lbs of sweat per workout. . . .you are not training hard enough.

Increase the volume and include a fast tempo in your training. Make sure your weight training sessions last no more than 1 hour.

Include lots of cardio!

If you are suffering from appetite loss. . . then you are not elevating your metabolism. If your body is constantly hurting, then you are not training properly.


Ask yourself these questions. . . .also ask yourself. . . am I pushing myself hard enough?

 

[jeremys]

i do think a lot about this, but lifting, etc is all i ever think about anyways.

i'm feeling that things are going good...

a CKD doesn't sound good as very low carbs most of the week could seem umm improper. lol..but i'll never know how it works for me if i don't try it

 

[casualbb]

I am under the impression that you are putting too much thought about certain things. The key to losing fat is to build up your metabolism and learn how to trick your metabolism. Tricking your metabolism is based on the types of foods you eat Eating no carbs is certainly not healthy. Never ever deprive yourself of nutrition!!!

Ignore that. A multitude of studies have shown, even over a period of many months, that ketogenic diets are safe and effective.

-casualbb

 

[jeremys]

today was lower body

it consisted of 5 sets of squats.

my last set was 185 for 8 reps, barely below parallel. this is kinda the most i've done in probably 8 months. i've done so much more, but i realize i'm getting back to where i was. being in ketosis, i know i can do much more, and probably break a PR as soon as i'm done with this dieting crap

weight is still at 245, so i'm guessing that's pretty accurate, even with the water fluctuating

 

[jeremys]

everybody in my family and many other people in the area are catching a nasty bug. some people got temps of 104 or so..

i was trying not to get sick but i have a sore throat today. does anybody know if there's carbs in vitamin C tablets?

 

[gonelifting]

Jeremys you`re on the right track. Keep it up. You have to GIVE IT TIME, though. I`ve been on CKD for 2 months I went from 230 to < 210. MOSTLY fat loss from 20+% to around 12 now.

Just stick with it.

I would have never thought it, but I look BIGGER NOW than I looked at 230. DEFINATELY better. I have an injury as well and figured since I can`t go all out with everything I might as well cut up before my next BULK cycle. good luck keep us posted

 

[jeremys]

thanks man

am i giving the impression that i'm not being patient? im not trying to do that..just posting frequent updates

thanks again. your 2 months and down at least 8 percent progress gives me a lot of hope

 

[Zander1983]

Keep at it.

When dieting you're more open to illness, so up your Vitamin C intake. You can get sugar-free tabs. Also try for some Zinc if you can.

If you really don't want to get sick (since it may hit you hard, put your progress back and keep you out of the gym) then I'd consider upping your calories for a couple of days. Good stuff like steak will help you out and will fit in with your diet (presuming you intend to keep low carbing).

 

[jeremys]

Keep at it.

When dieting you're more open to illness, so up your Vitamin C intake. You can get sugar-free tabs. Also try for some Zinc if you can.

If you really don't want to get sick (since it may hit you hard, put your progress back and keep you out of the gym) then I'd consider upping your calories for a couple of days. Good stuff like steak will help you out and will fit in with your diet (presuming you intend to keep low carbing).

thanks, i'll up the cals

didnt go to school today..started with a sore throat, then flu-like appetite suppression, but i have to keep eating. feels like i'm shoving my face but i'm not eating enough. i'm also the phlegm king

exactly 4 weeks today

 

[jeremys]

still sick today

last night i woke up 5 times, cold as hell, even t hough the temp in the house was above 72 and i had a bunch of warm clothes on. i could not walk straight without running into something. my head was hot but i was so damn cold...i actually thought i was going to die.

anyways, when i was ready to die, i started thinking. i realized that bodybuilding would be so facking boring..i knew that if i were to die a bodybuilder, i would not be happy. PLing is so cool. i thought i might try BB out one last time, maybe compete once, but i know it's not worth the time. this is it...it's time for the fun shit

now, i could either go down to like 12-14% and then start powerlifting training again, or i could start right when i get to like 16-18% and figure some way to decrease my blubber mass thereafter. i'd like to do the latter. any opinions/comments/help is always welcome

 

[gmanlax7]

just get down to a level where you feel comfortable, then start training hard and eating right again. Get a good routine of diet and lifting going, and fat will slowly fade away.

 

[Zander1983]

anyways, when i was ready to die, i started thinking. i realized that bodybuilding would be so facking boring..i knew that if i were to die a bodybuilder, i would not be happy. PLing is so cool. i thought i might try BB out one last time, maybe compete once, but i know it's not worth the time. this is it...it's time for the fun shit

now, i could either go down to like 12-14% and then start powerlifting training again, or i could start right when i get to like 16-18% and figure some way to decrease my blubber mass thereafter. i'd like to do the latter. any opinions/comments/help is always welcome

Just make up your mind and stick to it. Changing your goals too often won't get you anywhere. You'll keep swinging back and forth between them and it will be very counterproductive.

Decide what you want and then plan absolutely everything you need to do in order to achieve it.

Once you've achieved it, decide the next thing you want to achieve, and the process repeats itself in a very productive and fulfilling way.

All the best deciding what you want to do!

 

[jeremys]

Just make up your mind and stick to it. Changing your goals too often won't get you anywhere. You'll keep swinging back and forth between them and it will be very counterproductive.

Decide what you want and then plan absolutely everything you need to do in order to achieve it.

Once you've achieved it, decide the next thing you want to achieve, and the process repeats itself in a very productive and fulfilling way.

All the best deciding what you want to do!

i agree, thanks

 

[jeremys]

today was supposed to be depletion day but of course i was sick as hell so i got 2 sets of squats in, and some light rows and curls then i ate.

my appetite is shit. i barely ate anything and felt like i was stuffed full. i fell asleep for a couple hours after i took MORE ibuprofen and i feel A LOT better now. going to the doc tomorrow for some anti-b's.

depending on how fat i am right now, i might resume normal training again. probably going to start with 5x5 for a couple weeks then a westside variation

 

[louden_swain]

Jeremy,

Did you ever get your back chedked out? I hope things are going good for you.

 

[jeremys]

i'm FINALLY going to a chiropractor on monday. x rays and the whole deal.

went to the regular doc today..i just have some viral infection. hopefully this will be gone in a couple days..

i was dehydrated when they tested for mono, and while i was sick, i was getting really dizzy and run down because of low blood sugar levels (keto probably 'helped' this happen)

i'm guessing i'm about 20% right now, maybe 250 with water back in me