Corn - your advice about leg training....

[frorider6]

I can't remember what thread it was in and don't feel like digging. Anyway, I mentioned that I can't get the outer sweep of my thigh to develop and you suggested the following: for leg extensions, point toes in and for leg press position the feet lower on the pad and feet about hip width apart.

On my leg day, I substituted leg press (with the above form) for front squats and added 2 final sets of leg extensions. I could actually feel the muscle working. And 2 days later, my legs are still tired and fatigued, which is normal, but my outer quads are also hurting, which is new.

Just wanted to say thanks for the advice.






for those of you who don't think it's possible to develop the outer sweep independent of the entire thigh, I think you should look at an anatomy chart. The thigh is made up of several different muscles and I believe it's possible to concentrate on a lagging one to accelerate it's growth.

http://www.bartleby.com/107/illus430.html

 

[frorider6]

bump to give the man his props.

 

[MarshallPenniford]

Look more closely at the anatomy chart - they all share one insertion point. Once the muscle is overloaded, the angle your toe is at is not going to make much a difference. Cornholio gets this info from "Muscle Meets Magnet", but he draws the wrong conclusions from what he is reading IMO, and, I can show you three different MRI studies that show you three different things. I think if psychologically you feel like you're benefitting though, good enough, it will keep you stimulated.

 

[MarshallPenniford]

Anyway, the above is just my opinion, I don't mean to make it sound like the word of god. I just haven't seen any research ever to show otherwise, and it doesn't really make much sense that you could do what you're suggesting with a single-joint excersise like the leg extension.

 

[The Shadow]

Look more closely at the anatomy chart - they all share one insertion point. Once the muscle is overloaded, the angle your toe is at is not going to make much a difference. Cornholio gets this info from "Muscle Meets Magnet", but he draws the wrong conclusions from what he is reading IMO, and, I can show you three different MRI studies that show you three different things. I think if psychologically you feel like you're benefitting though, good enough, it will keep you stimulated.

Rotating the feet places more empahsis on a particluar are via the stretch

Fro - good to hear. Soreness is a pretty good indicator to me....good deal.

Marshall - no offense taken. Try the exercises and then tell me where you hurt.

 

[Bobarell]

I am assuming that this is the same kinda thing as Curls right? Changing the angle of your hand while doing a curl changes the part of the muscle you are working out. BB curls and Ezcurl bar are a good example or hammer curls to straight DB curls.

Is this the same kinda thing as what Corn is saying to do for quads? My outer Quads are much more developed than my inners so should I just point toes in instead? I walk like a duck so I guess that's why my outers are more defined(genetic thing). I guess my legs are a perfect example of what Corn said working!! I always keep my toes straight when doing leg exercises...just to eliminate all other factors

 

[The Shadow]

I am assuming that this is the same kinda thing as Curls right? Changing the angle of your hand while doing a curl changes the part of the muscle you are working out. BB curls and Ezcurl bar are a good example or hammer curls to straight DB curls.

Is this the same kinda thing as what Corn is saying to do for quads? My outer Quads are much more developed than my inners so should I just point toes in instead? I walk like a duck so I guess that's why my outers are more defined(genetic thing). I guess my legs are a perfect example of what Corn said working!! I always keep my toes straight when doing leg exercises...just to eliminate all other factors

For inner quad - ie - tear drop - turn toes out