Clen with first cycle???

[newbie210]

My first injection is on Monday, but I really want to run a clen cycle either before or with it for the first two weeks.

My cycle right now is: (10weeks, possibly 12, I want to see how I do)

Test E 600mg/wk (Monday-am/Thursday-pm injections)
A-dex .5mg/ED (and yes I'll probably increase it to 1mg/ED)

PCT of course

This was the clen cycle, Swordfish recommended so I'm running with that as soon as I figure this out.

Example of a first cycle:

Day1: 20mcg
Day2: 40mcg
Day3: 60mcg
Day4: 80mcg
Day5: 80mcg(Note: Increase the dose only when the side effects are tolerable)
Day6-Day12: 100mcg
Day13: 80 mcg (Tapering is not necessary, but it helps some users get back to
normal gradually)
Day14: 60 mcgs
Day15: off
Day16: off
Day 17: ECA/ NYC stack

Will the clen effect my gains? Will it make the sides worse? Will the test effect the fat loss with the clen? What can I expect running both and should I? Why or why not?


Age 22
Height 5'9ish
Bf 15%
Weight 210lbs

 

[steelmass]

Great job listing stats - what are your goals though ?

 

[NaturalOnlyAtBirth]

Well what are your goals? Your at 15%, are you trying to get that down?

I know it wont change your mind but for a 1st cycle at 22 years old 600mg is a little much. You have never run a cycle so you don't know how your body is going to react to test, try starting around 250mg-500mg (max) and see how it goes. You have a lot of time to run bigger cycles.

 

[filthyr]

I agree with naturalonly! I am 38 and did 300mgs of Test Cyp
on first cycle and trust me, It was enough! You probably stiil
have a decent test level at that age. 600mgs of test might shut
your nuts down bigtime. Have you planned a solid PCT?

 

[newbie210]

I agree with naturalonly! I am 38 and did 300mgs of Test Cyp
on first cycle and trust me, It was enough! You probably stiil
have a decent test level at that age. 600mgs of test might shut
your nuts down bigtime. Have you planned a solid PCT?

Yeah I have PCT set up and checked. I thought about lowering it to 450mg/wk but running it out to 12 weeks. As far as my goals I would like to end up at about 225lbs and about 10-12%bf. What do you guys think?

Clen or No Clen?

 

[Slyder190]

Clen/Diet/Cardio for sure.

 

[bca21]

i dont no but im interested in your question as well. SO bump

 

[newbie210]

Clen/Diet/Cardio for sure.

Do it with the Test.....?

 

[bca21]

bump for info.... So can he run this cycle with clen?

 

[filthyr]

I would suggest to run the the clen after the cycle. If your looking for mass
and weight gain I would try to much on as much weight first than cut later
with the clen. You may experience some sides from any one the aas. So
I believe you should go at your first cycle slow and feel how your body responds to each. If you introduce everything too quickly at really high doses
you may not be able to decifer what sides you may experience. Safety is
key hear because more is not better!!!!