Circumcision? Yes or no?

[Mandinka]

Ok , One last time I hope.

Take a look at my last post - your comment on the "lack of principles of the Swiss" is unfounded - the Swiss guards are the highest paid and most elite group of mercenaries in the World.
The practice of circumcision is in fact far more predominant in the true Third World (take a look at the continent of Africa) where it is commonly performed on both sexes.
The question as to why an individual should not interfere with the intact penis has well and truly been answered within this thread and you should take the time to investigate the references quoted. As I stated in my previous post , "Even your own American Society of Paediatricians refuses to endorse the practice of routine circumcision. ".
Aesthetics have little to do with the matter and are simply conventions- in Europe the circumcised penis is considered to be mutilated , in Jamaica obese women are favoured sexually and in America women who insert polymers into their breasts are considered more aesthetically pleasing. If someone wishes to pierce their head (!?) then society's only concern is that the do so by their own free will,that they are able to exercise that will and thirdly that they are aware of the negative aspects.
The foreskin has a very important function, you simply are not able to accept that fact - I suggest you seek medical advice on the matter , the assertion that it is more hygenic has been disproved - the statisitcs on UTIs (urinary tract infections) in Europe vs. the U.S.A. back up that claim which in any case are more common in women than men. Live with it.

 

[HamHock]

I have been kinda fucking around with this thread because there is no right answer, it is a completely subjective topic and a matter of personal preference. However, since you have attempted to make you argument as a factual one, I must refute some of your misinformation as a matter of principle.

1. Using the Swiss Guard as an example of the Swiss being a principled nation is a fallacious use of inductive reasoning as they are hardly representative of the whole. If you would like some facts on the matter, track where stolen Holocaust money sat for 50 years, study which country's international banking law allows for criminal laundering and terrorist sponsorship to occur legally and covertly. The neutrality of the Swiss is another indication of a lack of principles and this was made very evident during WWII with their relationship with Nazi Germany. They also harbor a number of powerful white collar criminals, including the gentleman Clinton pardoned.

2. Female circumsion is a practice done primarily by Muslims. Male circumsion is not related nor practiced as a rule by those who use female circumcision as a method of suppressing female sexuality. Somalia and several middle Eastern countries are the most ardent proponents of this practice and are also countries that do not circumsize their males.

3. Although Jamaica has many obese women, obesity is not the primary trait for men to find them attractive. Black men in general, tend to prefer more voluptous women than white or Asian and do not find obesity as repulsive as other races might.

4. American women are hardly the only women on the planet getting fake boobs.

5. "The foreskin has a very important function" This is just silly now that men wear pants.

 

[Mandinka]

Great ,
at least you are making an attempt now to narrow down the argument , albeit you are (predictably) avoiding the nub of the issue - that this is a surgery which is wholy unneccessary and in fact damaging.
Earlier in the thread you commented:

That uncircumsized shit is 3rd World man

and furthermore:

instead of growing up ashamed

and of course this gem:

its just nasty with the foreskin----looks like a monkey dick or something, plus chicks prefer a visable head

so clearly to comment now that you feel there is no right answer constitutes a certain amount of horse-manure on your part. In addition you post no reference as to your assertion that
:

chicks prefer a visable head

, perhaps a poll of your immediate family will provide you with the unbiased random sample that you seek.
To address your previous post directly:
1. You posted that the Swiss were both fearful and unprincipled , I believe the Swiss guards takes care of the fearful part. On the point of view of being unprincipled - did not your populace elect democratically your Mr. Clinton?. People in glass houses perhaps should not project stones randomly.
2.

Male circumsion is not related nor practiced as a rule by those who use female circumcision as a method of suppressing female sexuality. Somalia and several middle Eastern countries are the most ardent proponents of this practice and are also countries that do not circumsize their males.

Not only do such countries routinely perform male circumcision (as all Muslims) , but IN ADDITION it is practised at the onset of adolescence usually with the poor kid in question being cut with flint knives. I await your challenge to this but please do it with references.
3. Points 3 and 4 relate to societal conventions - the reasons why they are adopted are neither here nor there. Routine circumcision was introduced to your country for the sole reason of discouraging masturbation , check it . It was never intended as a medical remedy , furhtermore the analogy to breast enlargement surgery is all the more telling since both commonly contradict the hippocratic oath all medical personnel are required to take.
4. Pants have zippers don't they? In addition to an out and out proterctive sheath from abrasion (e.g. from underwear) the foreskin prevents the glans drying out - read chrome's large post on this , maybe this time with an open mind.

 

[HamHock]

You took some of my comments a little too seriously. Anyways, I was just sitting here admiring how attractive my penis is, so I called my mother to thank her for having me circumsized as an infant.

 

[Mandinka]

admiring how attractive my penis is

Yes , I do admit to being surprised at your endless fascination\admiration with\for the male genitalia. Just don't stand anywhere close to me in the gym pal.
I'm glad that your emasculation has brought yourself and your supposed guardian closer.

 

[buddy28]

Im uncircumcised. ITs ok. There is smega build up which makes my cock stink if i dont wash it daily. THis can be a pain.

Truthfully, I wouldve preferred if my parents cut me as a baby because:

1) its cleaner - the chicks like clean dicks
2) i think it looks better


But everyones different. My motivation is i like having sex with alot of girls and dont really care if i have it or not, so its a nuisence (my spelling is shit). Your son may grow up not wanting to fuck a ton of girls, so perhaps he'd feel violated or wish he had a foreskin.

Why wouldnt i get cut now?

Reduction in sensation. 10-15% of sensation from the dick is derived from the foreskin + when you cut the foreskin off, the head of the penis (corona ) becomes slightly calloused.

I talked to my buddy whose circumcised and says he wish he had it intacked. He's a relativily emotionally healthy chap with few issues compared to most, so i give his opinion weight. But , in the end its a personal thing.

 

[guards]

I'm perfectly happy with my hooded friend!

 

[Weapon X]

Hell no its fucking mutilation. And so is female genital mutilation.

Amen, brother.
The foreskin has a purpose. The structure that forms the foreskin is the same structure that, in girls, becomes the clitoral hood.
Let's not start chopping things off our kids' genitals. M'kay?

 

[Mandinka]

The foreskin has a purpose. The structure that forms the foreskin is the same structure that, in girls, becomes the clitoral hood.

Bump for the intelligence of my Jewish brother above.

 

[starbrn]

snip it. like the boy'll remember any pain when he grows up. please some children have more painful surgeries really the only reason i could think of to have it done these days is esthetic appearence............it is more appealing.