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Miss24k said:I'm sorryit seemed on the low side to me
It is, but I don't think she's sqautting 225.
3 weeks ago, I thought I could cut on 8-10 x bodyweight and very low carbs. That was fine for the first week, when I wasn't training. Then I started my program, I squat 3x a week. My cals are now x10-12. I added cleans to my cardio routine, I will not be surprised if my cals go up to 1700.
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Flor - you're welcome ...
Depending on what my GOAL is at the time, my cals will dip, zigzag etc ... b/c i try new things out & do it often ...
For the record I easily maintained at ~2500 last summer and I am 'bigger' now ...
Personally I think you will only see what works for YOU if you try some of the suggestions... if you want to deplete to 'experience' it, then I see no problem with that, no matter WHAT the goal ... BUT I wouldn't start playing around with that when you have no diea how your body will react esp. for an event you're planning on attending to look (as well as FEEL) good ...
There is some good info here... I have no other comments at this time
Thank you & happy hump day
Depending on what my GOAL is at the time, my cals will dip, zigzag etc ... b/c i try new things out & do it often ...
For the record I easily maintained at ~2500 last summer and I am 'bigger' now ...
Personally I think you will only see what works for YOU if you try some of the suggestions... if you want to deplete to 'experience' it, then I see no problem with that, no matter WHAT the goal ... BUT I wouldn't start playing around with that when you have no diea how your body will react esp. for an event you're planning on attending to look (as well as FEEL) good ...
There is some good info here... I have no other comments at this time
Thank you & happy hump day
Sassy69
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Just to keep things in context here -- Buns - you gotta be honest when you look at cals burned vs your intake as well - you do wild amounts of cardio that would require the higher cals.
Flor - I think the diet you have listed is a good place to start - it takes a couple of weeks to adjust to any diet change - particularly a major one. Then see how you feel on that -- enough energy to train & stay awake during the day, feel energetic, sleep well? Then do you start to see some body composition changes -- bodyfat, weight (less emphasis on the weight), how your clothes fit, etc.
Then based on that you can adjust your carbs or total cals to fine tune what you are doing. If you are exhausted all the time after 2-3 weeks on this or your trainng sessions seem like they are suffering or you don't sleep well, then add more complex carbs. But give it some time to adjust- if this is a big change, then you will probably feel "off" for a few days or a week while your body adjusts, maybe starts to dump some of the garbage in your system - an example of this is when people clean up their diet and experience headaches - that is sort of a "detox" from the normal amount of processed sugars they are used to getting.
Also re: the eating tuna 5x/day -- dont' do that. Aside from how nauseating tuna will become by day 2, the amount of mercury in tuna can impact you as well as just an extremely limited diet -- you will be excluding a whole spectrum of things that your body needs to run efficiently. You can always starve yourself down, but any extreme you do w/ your will cause some sort of rebound action - be it problems due to lack of one of the nutrients your body needs or an accumulation of crap that in volume may cause other problems. The best way to do it is slow & steady w/ a balanced diet that is optimized to what you are trying to accomplish.
Flor - I think the diet you have listed is a good place to start - it takes a couple of weeks to adjust to any diet change - particularly a major one. Then see how you feel on that -- enough energy to train & stay awake during the day, feel energetic, sleep well? Then do you start to see some body composition changes -- bodyfat, weight (less emphasis on the weight), how your clothes fit, etc.
Then based on that you can adjust your carbs or total cals to fine tune what you are doing. If you are exhausted all the time after 2-3 weeks on this or your trainng sessions seem like they are suffering or you don't sleep well, then add more complex carbs. But give it some time to adjust- if this is a big change, then you will probably feel "off" for a few days or a week while your body adjusts, maybe starts to dump some of the garbage in your system - an example of this is when people clean up their diet and experience headaches - that is sort of a "detox" from the normal amount of processed sugars they are used to getting.
Also re: the eating tuna 5x/day -- dont' do that. Aside from how nauseating tuna will become by day 2, the amount of mercury in tuna can impact you as well as just an extremely limited diet -- you will be excluding a whole spectrum of things that your body needs to run efficiently. You can always starve yourself down, but any extreme you do w/ your will cause some sort of rebound action - be it problems due to lack of one of the nutrients your body needs or an accumulation of crap that in volume may cause other problems. The best way to do it is slow & steady w/ a balanced diet that is optimized to what you are trying to accomplish.
With all due respect, my name was mentioned so I felt I needed to say something ...Sassy69 said:
When I first started the project Jan 05 for 12.5 weeks , I wouldn't call 3 days HIIT, one free day sat/sun if at all wild amounts of cardio ... per Shadows Project ...
If you are referring to now, I've been cutting on 1800-2200 cals, I put on more size & increased LBM while dropping bf with the amounts of cardio upon which you speak ...
I'm an engima ...
I'm not sure I had a point ...
*carry on Miss Sassy*
Sassy knows her stuff .. listen to her .. she's mah big sis
Sassy69
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Just trying to keep the "maintained at 2500 cals" in context here....
The point is that when people talk about how many total cals they eat - its NOT a bad thing to eat more cals - the point is to fuel what you are trying to accomplish in accordance with where your body is at in its evolution and the daily volume of work / burn rate it has established or is establishing via consistency with small targeted changes towards a particular goal.
The point is that when people talk about how many total cals they eat - its NOT a bad thing to eat more cals - the point is to fuel what you are trying to accomplish in accordance with where your body is at in its evolution and the daily volume of work / burn rate it has established or is establishing via consistency with small targeted changes towards a particular goal.
florencia
Banned
Hi to all!
Thanks for all the input IT IS WONDERFUL!
I know for you girls lifting heavy is an everyday thing I am just a novice or even a wimp compared to you guys! Whom I deeply admire!
I squat with 100 lbs...4 X 10,I actually touch a bench I put in between my legs...(Which I do to keep from not going down enough).. leg extension 100 X 10 then right away drop the weight to 45 and do 15 more reps...I do that 3 times the same with Leg Curl...and walking lunges with 50 lbs...I also do adductors and abductors ¿? Hope names are right with 170 lbs/190 4 X10....
I must admit I have only been eating meal one with carbs...
meal that consists of 4 egg whites, 1/2C oatmeal and 1 tbsp flaxseed oil for example is more than 244 cals.
And the other meals only protein...turkey or tuna, egg whites...I can see my BF lowering I can see my abs and veins in serratus section...
I will try to send you a picture to your private mails, if you wish to see it send me your e-mail...Sorry I dont post it here but I am a bit shy....maybe soon I will be able to show off like you girls!
THAT WOULD BE HEAVEN!
THANKS,
Flor...(Loved it when you used it!)
Thanks for all the input IT IS WONDERFUL!
I know for you girls lifting heavy is an everyday thing I am just a novice or even a wimp compared to you guys! Whom I deeply admire!
I squat with 100 lbs...4 X 10,I actually touch a bench I put in between my legs...(Which I do to keep from not going down enough).. leg extension 100 X 10 then right away drop the weight to 45 and do 15 more reps...I do that 3 times the same with Leg Curl...and walking lunges with 50 lbs...I also do adductors and abductors ¿? Hope names are right with 170 lbs/190 4 X10....
I must admit I have only been eating meal one with carbs...
meal that consists of 4 egg whites, 1/2C oatmeal and 1 tbsp flaxseed oil for example is more than 244 cals.
And the other meals only protein...turkey or tuna, egg whites...I can see my BF lowering I can see my abs and veins in serratus section...
I will try to send you a picture to your private mails, if you wish to see it send me your e-mail...Sorry I dont post it here but I am a bit shy....maybe soon I will be able to show off like you girls!
THAT WOULD BE HEAVEN!
THANKS,
Flor...(Loved it when you used it!)
nycgirl said:
I was referring to her calculations of her meal, I with Sassy on this 1 I think her calorie intake is about right for HER WEIGHT and her ACTIVITY LEVEL.
We can not compare her calories to other girls on here, our bodies are all different and thus need different amount of calories.
A good place to be at for cutting is around 10-12 x your body weight but again this also has to be adjusted depending on what you are doing, and how your body reacts.
Comparing Bunny's calories and hers are like comparing apples and oranges, Bunny NEEDS ALOT MORE FOOD, because of HER WEIGHT AND ACTIVITY LEVEL.
Just example since it was brought up Bunny maintains at 2500 cals, I bulk at 2500 to 3000 and I put on weight, lol I think you ladies know this. But my body is alot smaller(I'm 5ft tall, and right now I'm 112lbs, I lost 3 lbs since last week lol) and Bunny is what (5'9 or 5'10 and I think 160lbs) see how silly that sounds to compare us, just like it is to compare Flor to Bunny. Not to mention Bunny is alot more active that most.
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