Benzodiazepines and gains?

[Lumberg]

Hey we all know alcohol can affect gains--it slows protein synthesis.

But do benzos do the same thing? I know they tend to relax the muscle so you shouldn't take them on training days until after you train but even then or on off days does it slow gains?

Or maybe it relaxes you and lets your body grow better because you're rested?

In reality the effect is probably trivial but just wondering if anybody has any solid info.

And yes I do have a script for them and I am not on at the time.

 

[Bulk King]

I don't think so, the are anti-catabolic as they suppress cortisol levels. They sure are great for battling the post cycle blues, prescription or not.

 

[The Terminator]

According to Anabolics 2002 valium (as well as other benzo's) are supposedly anti-cortisal agents. I think the groggy feeling they produce is not worth it imo, as they will slow down your training. But used responsibly (like before bedtime for sleep) then the sedative effect they prodcue could be beneficial. I sometimes take them if I take any ephedra too late in the afternoon...

 

[THE_BIG_FED]

According to Anabolics 2002 valium (as well as other benzo's) are supposedly anti-cortisal agents. I think the groggy feeling they produce is not worth it imo, as they will slow down your training. But used responsibly (like before bedtime for sleep) then the sedative effect they prodcue could be beneficial. I sometimes take them if I take any ephedra too late in the afternoon...

that is why i take my klonipin AFTER morning training and again in the afternoon. no slow down. i am tired the rest of the goddamn day.....but hey......i got a good workout. also, remember when i mentioned i had saw a few times that valium in particular raised GH levels. still not sure where it is. johnboy posted it a long while back.

 

[Juice Authority]

that is why i take my klonipin AFTER morning training and again in the afternoon. no slow down. i am tired the rest of the goddamn day.....but hey......i got a good workout. also, remember when i mentioned i had saw a few times that valium in particular raised GH levels. still not sure where it is. johnboy posted it a long while back.

What a bunch of bullshit this is! Great way to rationalize the use of "rec" drugs. Where do you come up with this shit?? Valium raises GH levels??? That's one for the books.

 

[Quadsweep]

What a bunch of bullshit this is! Great way to rationalize the use of "rec" drugs. Where do you come up with this shit?? Valium raises GH levels??? That's one for the books.

Well maybe if it kept you in stage 4 sleep longer where endo-HGH is released it would help maybe.

Quad

 

[Juice Authority]

Well maybe if it kept you in stage 4 sleep longer where endo-HGH is released it would help maybe.

Quad

That is true but valium and other sedatives merely help you get to REM sleep-like state (stage 1&2), which why when you wake up in the morning you feel unrested and groggy.

 

[cbeaks]

Quadsweep, do you feel that using valium the week before a contest to help with sleep could effect your vascularity or make you hold water? - cbeaks

 

[THE_BIG_FED]

look dickhead, i got you on my ignore list and see nothing you post, but saw what you said in the quotes. fuck you bitch, i use benzos for social anxiety and obssessive thoughts. you got a problem, i'll pay for your fucking ticket down here to FL, right hand to GOD, and beat the piss out of your punk ass. PM me your info and i'll have you a fucking ticket tonight and my address.

 

[Bulldog_10]

That is true but valium and other sedatives merely help you get to REM sleep-like state (stage 1&2), which why when you wake up in the morning you feel unrested and groggy.

I love how you bash the shit out of the big fed, but then when quad says basically the same thing...you back right off. not trying to be a dick, but it's just something i notice alot on most of the boards.