after reading all of the posts on this thread, it seems most people except Learnliftlove are of the opinion that marijuana has its place in this world today. Too call somebody a hippie for using weed and not knowing their backround, if they suffer from some medical condition, or have illness is totally ignorant. even the recreational smoker who wants to light up a few times a week, this has not been proven to be any worse for your health than alcohol, and is alot safer than alcohol. Steroids are even more harmful than weed. nature made weed i believe it has its place. in this world. lots of guys i know smoke and are in the best shapes of their lives. i know some like OP who train high, actually 1 of my really good pals does. each to there own. ignorant idiots like learnliftlove really get my blood boiling. i have seen his posts and all he does is ask stupid question like OP said about water and is butter healthy. idiot