A message about why there are so many busts lately

[Golfer18--old]

I wouldn't mind knowing out of everyone that has gotten popped what they're criminal history was........

Maybe the feds say look, lets see what kind of guy Golfer is. They look my name up (we all know they have our names, no matter what you think) and they say Golfer has never been in court or had any trouble with the law. Lets leave him alone . Then they look up Joe Blow. Under Joe Blows name they find he was arrested for GHB and XTC. So they start watching Joe Blow because these are the people they are after........some may see my point others might not. Its all about your history IMO. Of course guys who have never been in trouble have been popped for a 1k tabs of dbol but I would just like to know what the percentages are. FEDS aren't one track minded like you think. They have degrees, they can think believe it or not. When they look at things the make decisions. Those desicions IMO are made up of what your record is. Just like the 15 year old slut from middle school. She will always be the slut from middle school.

 

[_Yossarian_]

Perhaps the names of open source boards should be considered as a sort of indirect source post, and treated the same way one would treat the disclosure of a sources name/info.

It snot an answer to the problem, but its a step in the right direction....

 

[BLOODTIDE]

Excellent Thread!

 

[THEEGAME2544]

Yeah, definitely a great thread Frack!!!

 

[BloodLust]

I’m not so new to the scene but new to posting on the board. Even though I’d like to know where to get something other than syno or fina. I’d also like to know that when I finally do get a source that it’s legit and safe, and that the integrity of said source has not been compromised by people who at best are too trusting, and worst stupid and reckless.
Great post Bro…

 

[Frackal]

I wouldn't mind knowing out of everyone that has gotten popped what they're criminal history was........

Maybe the feds say look, lets see what kind of guy Golfer is. They look my name up (we all know they have our names, no matter what you think) and they say Golfer has never been in court or had any trouble with the law. Lets leave him alone . Then they look up Joe Blow. Under Joe Blows name they find he was arrested for GHB and XTC. So they start watching Joe Blow because these are the people they are after........some may see my point others might not. Its all about your history IMO. Of course guys who have never been in trouble have been popped for a 1k tabs of dbol but I would just like to know what the percentages are. FEDS aren't one track minded like you think. They have degrees, they can think believe it or not. When they look at things the make decisions. Those desicions IMO are made up of what your record is. Just like the 15 year old slut from middle school. She will always be the slut from middle school.

Dont totally count on that, multiple seizure letters is a big factor too...and they can cross reference seizures at your home address under your name with seizures at PO Boxes you've opened.

 

[Six]

I'm all for open source posting personally. Anyone who is dumb enough to openly advertise that they sell illegal narcotics, and better yet, give quantity discounts, is not the type of person with which I want to do business. Their getting popped due to their own ignorance/green just keeps the spotlight off the intelligent sources who stay low key.

Feds dont like people who brag about their illegal activity, and believe me you do not want to fuck with the Feds. People think they can win by knowing all the technacalities of the law but fail to realize the the Feds MAKE the laws. If they want you, they will get you. If they cant get you, they will make up a law to get you just like Al Capone and Raquetering.

A year ago this time on BBX, some guy traced an IP address to a Federal office then preceded to post the agent's name, address and phone number and start talking shit. We all know the ending of that story.

 

[jjs160]

frackel,

I don't post much but your message deserves a bump. This is all so true. I have been around awhile and don't post because I am too scared. Elite is a great place to come for information and to have questions answered. That's I need from it. There is alot of busts lately cause people are careless and trust too much. Why don't they go after the scum bag coke dealers who are ruining peoples lives. I have put 30 pounds of mass on just from reading the posts of the REAL members. It sucks it had to come to this, because this is supposed to be a place where everyone can realate but unforunately it isn't alawys like that. We got people that want to bust us in the worst ways. So just be careful to who you recommend and to the sources be careful who you take on... Peace, and get huge...

Hood

 

[Golfer18--old]

Dont totally count on that, multiple seizure letters is a big factor too...and they can cross reference seizures at your home address under your name with seizures at PO Boxes you've opened.

Thats part of your history bro. Like I said if they see nothing I don't think you will e messed with.

 

[smokinghawk]

I appreciate this kind of message because it takes a more honest, critical look at the situation, and correctly asks US to modify our own behaviors, rather than just trying to figure out more ways to be sneaky.

For example, we all know that the Feds have a job to do, and we can't fault them for it. But we also know that they are real, normal human people who have to make choices on the job, too. They, like us, are fully aware that we spend $2 million a minute on the drug war. They also know how much it costs to investigate, prosecute, and imprison someone. That means that our behavior is possibly a positive incentive (or a negative one) to their treatment of the whole AAS issue.

They know full well that AAS use is not as common or socially problematic as street/psychoactive addictive drug use. It doesn't fuel gangs, terrorists, shootings, robberies, domestic violence, homelessness, etc. It's WAAY down the list of things that contribute to social ills--especially in an age where obescity and under-exercising are public health concerns. AAS substances are used in regulated, precise amounts for regulated, precise amounts of time, not like crack which is used to satisfy a physical desperation that grows in intensity until the person, economy, and neighorhood are consumed in decay.

So they know it's a waste of time, money, and effort to try to corral a small subculture which doesn't even pose threats beyond hair loss and gyno.

But when WE make it impossible to ignore by OUR arrogant, flagrant flaunting of such things, we take away the opportunity for them to use common-sense discrimination.

I should add that I'm well-known here as being one of the few guys around who has NEVER even used an AAS. That's right; I'm roid-free. I've dabbled in DNP, but unless people start causing serious problems with that, who wants to be known as the agent who cost tens of thousands in taxpayer money to prosecute and incarcerate someone for using the wrong FAT-BURNING pill? Not a drug, not an addictive substance, not a chemical associated with violence and gangs and social destruction--a cotton-pickin' FAT BURNER.

(oh, and my source was a philanthropist--about 25-50% of the income was donated to anti-violence charities, environmental groups, and so on. Incidentally, I've gone out of touch with him and I'm "off the pill" now, so I'm 100% legal at this time, and plan to stay that way).

Seriously, we need to stop poking sticks at the bee's nest and then acting angry that some guys get stung.