as for van damne, cocaine wasn't in the mix then, probably a lot of tren and with pumped up bi's like that dbol and test for sure i agree with the above estimate. you have to remember how short and compact his arms are and legs. it is real easy to put on mass like that. he also is like a ballet dancer with ridiculous flexibility. so some of the leg muscles he has just come from the splits he does across two chairs lol. yea he looks good in that flic. his best build was actually in kickboxer imo. he is fucking shredded in that. god van damage, funny shit haven't heard his name in a while