You can't grow unless you take Protein shake after workout!

[djeclipse]

So true, they are pretty much only good if you don't have the time. People takin them 3 times a day is obsurd. It's pretty much a liquid diet, and if you want to shit nasty all day go right ahead but I'll stick with my good hardy animal meat.

and i wasnt tryin to be rude to you bro, I was just saying people are different in make up and structure. I'm more of an isolate guy.

No probs, it's all good.

As far as the one body part/ day, isolation crap. You may see gains, but it is the least effective way to train.

You will see more gains by training probably then you ever will by wasting time doing isolation crap.

 

[silverskyline]

No probs, it's all good.

As far as the one body part/ day, isolation crap. You may see gains, but it is the least effective way to train.

You will see more gains by training probably then you ever will by wasting time doing isolation crap.

Do tell what would you suggest???

 

[dabuffguy]

Hi all, it's been a while, well over a year. For those that know me, I tore my achilies tendon playing soccer and went downhill from there. I just started to get off my lazy ass and get back to the gym.

Anyway, I went to Hercks a local suplement store and the guy told me that you can NOT gain any muscle unless you have a protien shake (isolate) right after you work out. Even if you go home and eat lots of protein, you will not grow or gain muscle unless you have a protein shake. And there was no point of working out since your muscles will not be able to repair themselves so your work out is pointless if you don't have the shake.

When he said this I literally started laughing at him and asked him if he was serious.

I asked what did people do before the invent of these magical protein shakes?

He said "I'm a body builder, I know what I am talking about, if you don't have a protein shake right after working out you won't get bigger.

This guy really believed this nonsense, it was quite comical, I simply told him he was full of shit and left.

Anyway, it feels good to be back, I'm on week 7 of a 5 x 5 and though I'm far away form where I left off before I got hurt, I am on my way.

Cheers.

Are you serious man? That guy at the store is right. All the other food throughout the day doesn't mean shit. You could just have 1 protein shake PWO and get huge. I think YOU don't know what you're talking about jackass!

LOL. Just playing. That guy at the store is obviously a complete tool. A PWO shake is very beneficial, but it's the food you eat before and after all throughout the day and leading up to the next workout that counts. I nfact, you can get big on 0 protein shakes your whle life if you can get the nutrients from a solid food source. Shakes are there to help an otherwise good diet. Guy at the store = faggo, and a moron.

 

[djeclipse]

Do tell what would you suggest???

Read

http://www.geocities.com/elitemadcow1/5x5_Program/Linear_5x5.htm

Train core lifts.

Heavy squats, Deads, Rows, bench, repeat.

I used to think the same way until I came across the site above and madcow.

I could go on but there isn't much more to be said that is not already in the link I showed you.

 

[silverskyline]

Read

http://www.geocities.com/elitemadcow1/5x5_Program/Linear_5x5.htm

Train core lifts.

Heavy squats, Deads, Rows, bench, repeat.

I used to think the same way until I came across the site above and madcow.

I could go on but there isn't much more to be said that is not already in the link I showed you.

I'll give it a once over I'm always open minded, thanks

 

[djeclipse]

I'll give it a once over I'm always open minded, thanks

Good to hear

If you have any questions feel free to post here. I am by far an expert, but I have a pretty good grasp of the training. Others here (if they are still here) will be able to help you out more.

For instance, I only trained bies (islation) once a week for only 3 sets (3 sets of straight bar curls). Same with tries, only once a week for 3 sets. But I trained heavy with the Squats, Deads, rows, bench, and put on 1" on my arms in a few month's. Just an example that you don't need islation movements for your body to grow. I just started back and was able to add 30lbs to my bench in 6 weeks (5lbs/ week). I am almost back to where I was when i got hurt over a year ago.

 

[djeclipse]

Guy at the store = faggo, and a moron.

lol cheers to that )

 

[silverskyline]

Good to hear

If you have any questions feel free to post here. I am by far an expert, but I have a pretty good grasp of the training. Others here (if they are still here) will be able to help you out more.

For instance, I only trained bies (islation) once a week for only 3 sets (3 sets of straight bar curls). Same with tries, only once a week for 3 sets. But I trained heavy with the Squats, Deads, rows, bench, and put on 1" on my arms in a few month's. Just an example that you don't need islation movements for your body to grow. I just started back and was able to add 30lbs to my bench in 6 weeks (5lbs/ week). I am almost back to where I was when i got hurt over a year ago.

Yeah but my thing is I'm not going for raw size I'm going for a ripped physique very toned and defined. Plus (hahaha) I dont just do 3 sets a day when i hit Bis I tear them the fuck up I'll do like 3 sets of preacher, 3 sets of cable curls, 3 sets incline bench curls, 3 sets hammer, 3 sets all kinds of shit.

I'm pretty set on my routine it's gotten me right where I want to be

 

[silver_shadow]

Yeah but my thing is I'm not going for raw size I'm going for a ripped physique very toned and defined. Plus (hahaha) I dont just do 3 sets a day when i hit Bis I tear them the fuck up I'll do like 3 sets of preacher, 3 sets of cable curls, 3 sets incline bench curls, 3 sets hammer, 3 sets all kinds of shit.

I'm pretty set on my routine it's gotten me right where I want to be

dude are you serious or just kidding?

 

[djeclipse]

Yeah but my thing is I'm not going for raw size I'm going for a ripped physique very toned and defined. Plus (hahaha) I dont just do 3 sets a day when i hit Bis I tear them the fuck up I'll do like 3 sets of preacher, 3 sets of cable curls, 3 sets incline bench curls, 3 sets hammer, 3 sets all kinds of shit.

I'm pretty set on my routine it's gotten me right where I want to be

You do realize that being "ripped" has nothing to do with size, strength or muscle? And it certainly does not ahve anything to do with how many useless sets of curls you do/ day/ week.

Being "ripped" as you say is simply about body fat %. You could be a skinny little shit and be completly shreaded. You don't even have to pick up a weight to be "shreaded" as you say.

Look at Ed Norton in American history X. He is super skinny, but he has a very low body fat % there so he is very defined.

You are also wasting your time with all the curls.