What causes plateaus when dieting?

[wlibbe]

Temple-

Damn-your tone sounds so angry--am I wrong?

If you read my post you would have seen that my goal is 150 pounds--not 60. So you are yelling at the wrong person.

I am willing to do what I need to do to not gain weight and be healthy but I can't just start eating 2,000 calories a day when I have not been doing that for 5 months. Do you have any idea what that would do to my digestive system? Holy shit!!!

Also I know that I have to quit throwing up. That is why I am seeking ya'lls advice. My esophgus is so fucked that anytime I strain my voice by yelling, laughing, or talking fast--my throat burns so badly and I can't breathe/talk--it only lasts a couple of seconds but it hurts like a mother-fucker. I am not stupid. I don't want to die from a gastric rupture. All I am asking for is some advice.

I will not allow myself to gain weight-that can't happen-plain and simple. If I can't purge than I will just restrict heavily but I am trying to find a healthy way to do it. So as far as "packing on the pounds"--that is NOT an option.

Why are you so angry and frustrated--you went through this--you should understand.

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[KBgrl]

I would first like to say I AM SOOOOO PROUD OF YOU SUSAN ("thin") and I am seriously enjoying the things the things you have been posting lately! Very cool !!! luv to have you here!!!

MM and other girls from the thin forum... you guys have to be aware that you are on a body building board and not everyone has kept up with all the thin forum threads so when you throw in that your goal is 84lbs..or whatever it may be you WILL not get the response you are looking for. If you are just trying to look for advice on how to workout ,eat healthy , and overcome ED etc.. this is the place to be and you will find great info on how to do so but if your goals are to lose MORE weight on the scale while you are already underweight the advice you get here will not be what you are looking for. It will not take you from 100lbs to 85. You may want to consider avoiding the "I eat 200 calories a day" and stuff like that in future posts because it results in long ass ED threads again with people posting back and forth trying to convince one another about WHATEVER... its really not productive and turns into a ....well a mess.

Wlibbe....I like VERY much what we chatted about privately and I love to see you here. You are all encouraged to post and ask as many questions as you want but tryyyyyy to remember where you are posting and that not everyone will know "where you are coming from." with that said I would like to now throw ya some big ass warm cyber **HUGS**

MM -- You better get in contact with me soon missy!!!

 

[wlibbe]

Thanks KB! And I did what you suggested in your PM. Thanks so much!

 

[KBgrl]

You are welcome sweetheart!

one more thing ...and Im sorry susan but it's how I feel


Those of you who want to seriously recover should get your little asses over to the fishy forum or something like that. Hang around here...etc. you just need to be around positive things and not be "triggered." A drug addict can't be around drugs or people who do them right? ummm RIGHT!!!!!!

Just something to think about. This also DOES NOT MEAN you can't be friends with the people you have corresponded with who still have ED. It simply means you need to stay focused and take actions that get you coser to your goals not away from them.

and to those of you have "written off" "friends" because they are trying to recover and you arent or dont want to yet.... well thats just not very nice of ya you should rethink that a lil... IMO anyway....

 

[FitFossil]

It takes time to retrain your metabolism and your stomach. Increase your calories gradually and break them out into small enough feedings that your stomach can handle them.

Eating one meal a day, even if it is just 500 calories, will not keep your furnace (metabolism) stoked. A large part of those 500 calories will be stored as fat, because going all day w/o eating lets your furnace burn out and go cold.

Every time your furnace goes cold, it signals your body it's in starvation mode. One meal a day is like throwing a giant wet log on a single burning match. The fire's too little to burn it all, so most gets saved as fat. Even when purging, not every calorie comes back up.

You may feel bloated at first, but once your body gets the idea it's not going back into starvation mode it will start working with you rather than against you. After awhile, you will start feeling better, and you'll have more energy. This is a sign your metabolism is coming back up. You'll also be more effective in your workouts. As this happens you'll need continue to increasing the calories so your furnace stays hot and can burn the fat.

 

[Sassy69]

Interesting how the one thing that brings out the most passion on this board is the discussion of being too thin.

And I *BET* when each of us started out, was that annoying "fat between the thighs", etc. that even thin (susan) is talking about. First, women are "blessed" with this fat by the almighty grace of estrogen - so to a degree, we just gotta deal w/ it because its part of the whole ability to execute that miracle called reproduction. So anyway, we all started out wanting to get rid of these spots where we preferentially carry extra fat. Problem is that first, you can't lose in only certain places -- its all relative -- you just have more fat cells in those places, so you gotta whittle down your over all bodyfat to get those spots to go down.

Then we finally figure out the secret -- its not ONLY the reduction of fat. The structure of our bodies (excluding organs) is bone, fat & muscle. Well, you need the bones. Can't change those. The fat we don't want, and the muscle gets forgotten because no woman wants get "big" ... right? WRONG. It takes a balance of losing the nonessential fat and building the muscle. Muscle doesn't have to be the bulging Ms. O but *some* is better than none. And as Temple stated, you can't continue to drop fat because you *NEED* some of it or forget about how you feel about yourself, your organs need it so you can continue to be here to worry about how you look or feel.

OK.. blah -- late in the day & i'm low carbing.... the point is that you can achieve a productive goal by turning around the method to get "thin" -- you prob won't lose that fat between your thighs, but you can tighten it up ALOT by building the muscle around it. Different method, better result.

....trying to find a diff way to approach the idea.


BTW -- good post KB!

BBTW -- wlibbe -- you a cute girl hun! Killer smile!

 

[wlibbe]

KBGrl-I totally understand what you are saying about not hanging around a place that is not going to help you. But actually I find that being there does help me just as being here is starting to help me too! I HATE Something Fishy with all their damn crazy rules! I think that place is run by ED Nazis!!!

Fit Fossil-thank you so much for posting all that informative advice-i really appreciate it!

Sassy-Thanks for the compliment and I am definitely going to try varying my routine a little bit-hopefully that will help!

BTW-it is SOOOOO nice to be chatting with ya'll and not bashing each other like on our last thread together! And I really appreciate ya'll giving me a chance and listening to me--it means a lot--especially since I was such a nasty bitch the first time around!

 

[Temple]

Wlibbe - sorry if I sounded angry to you, frustrated maybe, angry - no. Reread what I said in my earlier post but read it with the tone being much softer. I can only approach this from my own experience and warm fuzzies and coddling me did no good. When my child was caught playing with fire - I was not a warm and fuzzy kind of mom. Sometimes you have to talk hard cold facts and I believe that this is one of those times.

Do I want you to get up tomorrow and eat 2000 calories - no
like you said holy shit - and that would be literally.

Your metabolism is a smart thing and it will not allow you to starve it. It will go to war with you first. When you eat less than 1800-2000 calories a day you will lose weight for awhile and then your body says STOP. It begins to hang onto its fat stores for dear life
Add cardio and it will also work for awhile but your body will also adjust to that and make the necessary metabolic adjustments.
You can lift weights but you will not gain lean mass on inadequate calories. It is like being a hampster on one of those wheel thingies.
I hit a huge plateau when I lost down from the 200# mark and the reason was TOO MUCH CARDIO AND INADEQUATE CALORIES. I had to pay the piper, I ranted and railed and carried on - just knew there had to be some way other than the one Lobo and IG were telling me which is what I am telling you. Finally I resigned myself to the fact that they knew what they were talking about and I was just going to have to walk into the gates of hell (that is literally how I viewed it) and gain a few pounds in the short term to get rid of alot of fat in the long term. It wasn't a pleasant two months but it went quickly, I was focused and the weight came off much faster than it went on.
You are trying to put the puzzle together with only part of the peices - it simply can't be done.

If I believed for one second that women with ED did not have the power and the strength and the courage to change it then I would be far more understanding and would sugar coat my responses. You are smart, strong, capable women that can pull yourselves out of these holes anytime that you want to and what you do to yourselves is complete and utter bullshit and I don't mean physically I mean emotionally. Its not easy and I will never tell you otherwise. This ain't no dress rehearsal, you have one shot to be here and only you decide on what terms you do it.

 

[wlibbe]

Temple-okay-thanks honey! I know what you mean and maybe I needed to hear it. What you said about finally accepting what people are telling you to do might take me a while-keep in mind that I only decided LAST NIGHT that I could not purge anymore. So I am still trying to get used to all these new ways of thinking. The utter emotional bullshit you are talking about is so right but I can't seem to get my mind out of that idea that fat=ugly. I am trying to feel worthy and deserving of food and getting healthy. I am only in the beginning of all of this and hopefully one day I will be able to offer the same kind of advice you are to someone who is going through all of this. I want to be alive-I do. This is precisely why I made the decision to stop purging. Thanks again!

 

[sheez_ripped]

Wlibbe...

I hear where you're coming from....and let me offer my experience...now i have never had an eating disorder....but was in so-so shape a couple yrs ago....then lost thyroid function due to goiters....well at your height....actually a little taller....5'-9"...i went from 140 lbs to 180....in a summer....doctor thought i didn't need replacement hormone....talk about frustrating....

anyway...finally got the right meds...and lost some of the weight...but still really not tight like i have always wanted to be...had lifted weights some...but was a cardio queen....and alternated starving myself...with eating like crap....

then before my high school reunion in 2000...i finally got on a program and stuck with it....but food still not very clean....and i put on some muscle...and could wear 10/12s.....at 170 or so...

but then i found this board and a great trainer...along the lines of W6....cause I wanted to have a fabulous bod for once....to wear a bikini and not cringe at any flab....

and ya know...that was only 3 months ago that i started working out with him....and DIET was the key..i had been overlooking....as well as too much cardio...i starved myself and did tons of cardio...and never lost weight or only a few lbs....NOW....i eat 2000 cals a day in 5-6 small meals...and have dropped 21 lbs fat! and 10% body fat.....and no cellulite at 40 yrs old...for the first time in my life....and have a 6 pack! i am constantly amazed when i look in the mirror....i really don't know what size i am now...but I can wear anything skin tight and have NO rolls or bulges that I don't like!....but the SCALE hasn't changed!!! still 170.....or 173 to be exact....but the fat keeps melting away! my husband says it's like sleeping with a new woman! and he's buying me all kinds of bikinis and slutty clothes! lol!

so....bottom line...do try to slowly increase your intake of food....and follow a program like W6's...u don't have to strive to be a big bodybuilder type....though i like it personnally....but the same program will get ya in a SIZE 8! I promise!!!