US needs to stop supporting Israel

[SolidRock]

If the Hatfields and McCoys are fighting one another. And you send guns to the Hatfields. Well guess what? The McCoys are gonna think of YOU as the enemy as well, and start shooting you. C'mon, what did you expect? Cookies?

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Very Good Analogy.

 

[SCOTTY-TWO-HOTTY]

Do you guys know WHY Iraq doesn't possess nuclear weapons... because of Isreal's superior forsight in 1981. Incase ant of you historians don't know what I'm talking about... I'll clue you in: In 1981, an Isreali F-16 bombed an Iraqi nuclear reactor the day the construtcion of it was complete. Their intelligence was so on point, they even waited till the French engineers went home for the day before they decimated the reactor. This was back in a time when Iraq was being supported by the US and western Europe, whose governments quickly condemed Isreal's actions.

 

[prophet]

or let the jews kill all of them. Doesn't make one difference to me just as long as the US stops sending our fucking money to them.

exactly!!!!!!!!!!!

 

[2Thick]

People need to realize there's TWO entities

Al Qaeda which are plain murderers and terrorists

and

Arabs fighting for their own land and rights and freedoms (palestinians).

I think we are all unanimous in hating Al Qaeda. If there was a US group that went over and started killing mulsims and afghans and trying to scare the PLO. Technically we will condone it, but underneath it we would be like "Yeah! kill our enemy!". That's how Arabs think of Al Qaeda. They don't like suicide bombers, but if it's fighting for it's cause, so be it.

I hate Al Qaeda, but I DO understand why Arabs and Mulsims would hate us. That's because we support THEIR enemy. Can you blame them. If i saw a poor palestinian tomorrow who has no future, no job, no skills, can't go out past 10pm, can't migrate or vacation in any country (cuz no one would dare allow a palestinian muslim to enter theri country, think about it), and has all his freedoms taken away by Isreali Soldiers armed with American machine guns --- yes i would apologize to him. For he's an *innocent* person who has done no wrong except be born in that land. And it's unjust for MY government to stick it's head into it and try to OPRESS him for no reason except that he's not a *jew*.

Funny, in America we ALL act as americans. Black, White, etc. But in THAT area -- it's either jews or arabs. And the Isreali government THEMSELVES distinguish betwene the two. That whole area is racist and proud of it. If America acted like Israeli and patrolled predominately black areas with tanks, and stopped every middle eastern guy in a car, and never allowed certain types of people to go past certain boundaries -- how would u feel?

Well, that's EXACTLY how life is like there in the gaza/west bank areas of Israel.

These young muslim youths grow up with nothing to look forward to, can never be CEO's of their hot technology company, can never go to NYC and enroll in university, can never hope to buy a corvette, can never vacation in hawaii -- yet see lucky jewish kids 20 miles north who can do all that. That disgust and hatred and compassion for the cause only grows from that towards the rich jews. And yes, that's where that "rich jews who control everyhting" stereotype came from. It's how muslim in Israel talk about the native jews.

Don't believe me? I DARE you to move to the West Bank, Change your name to a muslim name, and start speaking arabic instead of jewish. Now TRY and lead the same type of life you do here. Try to accomplish whatever goals you set in life. Now you will see where the roadblocks start coming. We in America are VERY VERY lucky to have our democracy and our rights. People FORGET how important and wonderful they are.

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[BigRedCat]

Hey I will let you guys in on a little secret. America is run by Jews. The people who actually pull the strings and control the US are very rich Jews from old money. And I am not talking the Hollywood movie making 2nd genration Jews either. I am talking since the foundation of our coutry. They are behind the scenes so to speak. So of course they are eternally linked to Israel. Its like their little brother, their homeland. They control banking,entertainment,jewelry- etc. If you control banking you have serious power. This whole terrorism thing is all about Jews vs. Muslims. The original old skool war if you will. It will be the end of humanity in all likelyhood.

Bush is a puppet who does as he is told and he is told to kill off the Muslims because they are too damn dangerous to the rest of us. Try and read between the lines. The answers are usually there and they are seldom on the surface. Forget about all the rhetoric and the war propaganda they are selling us, it all comes down to us vs. them.

Muslim extremist are essentially cave men on the evolution chain. They are backwards in a BIG way. Super religious(which to me signifies lack of intelligence) and very aggressive and violent. They are all doing this for allah. How pathetic if humans wipe themselves off the planet over a non existant god. Not that we(first world people) are much better. We live under a government that stomps around the world playing bully and dolling out death. Our way or the highway! We have created greed on a level that far surpasses any known before. We have more people in prisons than any country in the world. We are crumbling from the inside. Of course we have to take our side since the alternate sucks even worse. We are in for some troubled times. Think about it: here we are, almost the year 2003. We are supposed to be at our most evolved and instead we are on the brink of war over some BS political and religious reasons. If I was a betting man I would say our odds of long term survival does not look good. We as a people have a big achilles heel that is currently being targeted.

 

[SSAlexSS]

Hey I will let you guys in on a little secret. America is run by Jews. The people who actually pull the strings and control the US are very rich Jews from old money. And I am not talking the Hollywood movie making 2nd genration Jews either. I am talking since the foundation of our coutry. They are behind the scenes so to speak. So of course they are eternally linked to Israel. Its like their little brother, their homeland. They control banking,entertainment,jewelry- etc. If you control banking you have serious power. This whole terrorism thing is all about Jews vs. Muslims. The original old skool war if you will. It will be the end of humanity in all likelyhood.

is currently being targeted.

Oh man. I think you are right. Is it me or does CNN focuses more on israelis rather thab "evil" arabs? When 1 israeli soldier dies, its a tragedy and the news are all over this event. When 10 palestinians die, it rarely gets mentioned, as if it is unimportant.

 

[thebabydoc]

Don't believe me? I DARE you to move to the West Bank, Change your name to a muslim name, and start speaking arabic instead of jewish. Now TRY and lead the same type of life you do here. Try to accomplish whatever goals you set in life. Now you will see where the roadblocks start coming. We in America are VERY VERY lucky to have our democracy and our rights. People FORGET how important and wonderful they are.

Yeah, right. With all of our "democracy and our rights," why don't you try just being black right here in the good 'ol U.S. of A?

And the language of the Jews might be Hebraic or Hebrew, but certainly not "jewish." Yet another bigoted error.

Now SHUT THE FUCK UP, you ignoramus.

I am tired of constantly having to clarify facts for you racist clowns. The Palestinians have been offered peace a dozen times. They don't accept it because they simply want nothing less than the complete erradication of the State of Israel. The Palestinian people continue to support leaders that support TERRORIST actions. And it's not like the Iraqi people- who don't support their leader other than because of fear. No, the Palestinians do it out of hatred, ignorance, and the lies that they (like the idiots on this thread) have been brainwashed into believing.

I could run through a dozen scenarios of what would happen if we didn't support Israel but how about this one...
They get overrun by a million under/unarmed arabs, of which they slaughter 3/4 right off the bat, and then are forced to use their nuclear arsenal to wipe the Middle East clean. That should leave plenty of nice clean air and uncontaminated oil for us and the rest of the world to use.

By the way, you think our support for Israel began with Bush or Klinton? Like maybe Nixon, Kennedy, Reagan, and about a dozen other presidents haven't supported Israel. Try reading a book.

I am tired of reading shit like this here. This is a chat board, not a "voice your ignorant ethnic opinions" board. And yes, the opinions you are expressing here ARE based on racist beliefs. So take it elsewhere you ignorant, racist assclowns.

 

[Baby Gorilla]

Study your Bible....

Didnt God expel jews? There must have been a reason for that.
And it was a jew who betrayed Jesus!

By covenant with God, the Children of Israel are God's chosen people. When fully obedient to the covenant, they are undefeatable. When in transgression, they are subject to judgment.

Jesus came for them. Most of them rejected Him. The Jews called for His execution, but the GENTILES did the deed.

God's promise that those that bless Israel will be blessed and those that curse Israel will be cursed still holds true today. Think Hitler would have lost WWII if he targeted some other ethnic group or nation? There's a truckload of evidence showing the spiritual factors that went on with that man.

The world (for the most part) will turn on Israel. When they face what seems like certain destruction is when Jesus will return and defeat all that oppose Israel. They will behold Him and realize that He really was and is their messiah.

 

[2Thick]

Re: Study your Bible....

By covenant with God, the Children of Israel are God's chosen people. When fully obedient to the covenant, they are undefeatable. When in transgression, they are subject to judgment.

Jesus came for them. Most of them rejected Him. The Jews called for His execution, but the GENTILES did the deed.

God's promise that those that bless Israel will be blessed and those that curse Israel will be cursed still holds true today. Think Hitler would have lost WWII if he targeted some other ethnic group or nation? There's a truckload of evidence showing the spiritual factors that went on with that man.

The world (for the most part) will turn on Israel. When they face what seems like certain destruction is when Jesus will return and defeat all that oppose Israel. They will behold Him and realize that He really was and is their messiah.

The "Moral Majority" or the religious conservatives support Israel because they see the above scenerio in the near future.

The end of man in our livetimes....I am excited to see the fireworks.

 

[BigRedCat]

Dont hold your breath too long waiting for Jesus to come and save you. Sometimes I wish I had blind faith like that, anyway- yeah what rights? We are losing them every day.

It dosen't even matter if it is racist, the fact is it is a Jews vs. Muslim worldwide war. Wake up and realize this. Israel doesn't fuck around, if they get sent a serin gas SCUD from Saddaam they WILL retaliate with Nukes. Make no mistake, they do not fuck around. Of course no one cares if Palestinians die, the propoganda train makes it so. No remorse for your enemy is the name of the game. It is to the point where it is us or them literally so guess what? They will die. Many of us will too in the fight. You might as well think of Israel as America's little scrappy brother that we have to help out of he will start shit with the rest of the neighborhood and it will become our problem. Gotta help your family right?