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tha_Waco_kid
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Hey good EF bros - I know there is a hunger for knowledge and experience around some of this transadermal gear so I thought I'd share my experience with a cycle that I worked through with knowledge from EF, other forums, and from Mr Transadermal also.
34 y/o
6'2
235
13-14% bf
Here's the plan:
1-4 Beastdrol 20/30/30/30
1-10 Trans Tren Base 50-75 mg per day (grapefruit caps 1x per day)
1-10 Test Cyp (Phizer Pharm) 200mg / week (reg TRT dose is 100, bumping to 200 for cycle)
5-10 T3 50-100mcg per day
5-10 Trans Anavar (MAYBE - haven't decided on this yet)
Supports/Ancillaries:
1-10 N2 Guard
1-10 BLOCKADE by Assault Labs (doubling up on cycle/organ support)
1-10 Caber .5 - 2x per week
1-10 Aromasin 12.5 EOD
1-10 Forma - on hand if needed for bloat, and/or PCT
1-10 HC Generate
PCT
I'm on TRT so not a real formal PCT here.
I am planning on running a bottle of unleashed, and Dspark post cycle, as well as a bottle of T3 PCT from NTBM. As well as continuing on the HCGen.
Diet:
High carbs weeks 1-4 with beast, moving into a CKD type diet for second half.
1-4 - 4000 to 5000 cals shooting for 400-500 grams carbs and 300 protein - I'm doing this as cleanly as possible. Carb sources are mostly oats and fruit. Adding in some potatoes and rice as needed. Proteins are mostly relatively low in fat (chicken, ground turkey, lean ground beef, sirloin/top round steak for meats. Other proteins: greek yogurt, nuts, whole eggs, PB, WTBM and True Nutrition blend powders)
5-10 - 3000 cals, high proteins, moderate to high fats, very low carbs (refeed 1x per week if needed) I'm a little nervous about going low carb on Tren as I've heard you can crash from it, but I have read other opinions to the contrary also. Alas, I'm going to give it a go and if I have to introduce more carbs, then I will do so.
Goals:
Put on some quality size with Beast, then use 2nd half of cycle to cut and lean out. I am an endomorph to the n'th degree so putting on size is a piece of cake for me. However, I am not interested in becoming a whole lot bigger than I already am. Thus, I am not looking to blow up here, but rather put on a few nice KEEPABLE gains without adding too much fat in the process. I have some areas I would like to improve on, which will be my focus rather than just putting on size for the sake of putting on size. Of course the irony here is that I have the genetics to put on size so easily, but I don't want it. If only I could trade genes with some of you ectos out there who want to be big!
Ok so here's an update. I have just completed the first week of this cycle. I am up 15lbs....yes, 15lbs. See more on this when I get to the diet, and water/bloat sides below. I have noticed some strength increases in the gym during last week's workouts, probably from Beast I'm guessing. Not crazy increases, but another rep or 2 on most of my lifts. Pumps have been really impressive and I feel pumped up in the morning even before my workouts. Honestly I just feel pumped all day like my muscles are full and tight. Particularly during workouts, my forearms have pumped to an insane amount almost to the point where I lose my grip easily on heavy pull days.
Typical Week of workouts:
Day 1: Chest
Day 2: Back
Day 3: Legs
Day 4: Shoulders
Day 5: Bis/Tris
I tend to stick to weights that keep me in the 10-15 rep range for all lifts. I don't like going overly heavy as I lift alone at home, and also, I don't want to be at greater risk for injury by pushing heavier weights. I have been able to grow with higher reps and I don't plan on changing until I see a reason to.
Cardio:
I'll be lowering my typical load of cardio down to about 4x per week, 45 minutes. This is just to stay in shape. I want to keep my endurance and muscle memory there so when I want to kill the cardio again post cycle it is still there.
Side Effects:
1) Energy - DOWN. Lethargy has been a brutal but not the entire day. Usually later on in the day. I think it is my diet and not superdrol. I have typically been on a lower carb diet for quite a while. Carbs tend to make me lethargic which seems to be contrary to what most folks say, but I always feel best on low carb diets. My workouts have been pretty good despite the lethargy. It is hard to start, but once I get going the energy seems to be there.
2) BLoated like a MF'er. Again, this is diet related I'm nearly positive. I am seriously holding water despite my aromasin and forma usage. I look pregnant, but with some abs...very odd!
3) Headaches - from the superdrol. They were awful days 1-4 or so, but honestly, I haven't had one since so I"m crossing my fingers that I have weathered that storm.
4) Pumps - so far, only good pumps. Nothing that has been a hindrance other than occasional shin splints during cardio....but honestly I deal with that here and there no matter what I"m on, if anything.
Overall sides have been manageable but the bloating really sucks.
Ok, so there's my update. Like I said, I am just starting week 2 and bumping SD to 30mg per day so we'll see how that treats me. I'm already bigger and stronger after 1 week so I'd say that is a damn fine start.
I'll try to give a few updates every week as I have time. I am following gator's protocol for the transadermal application with the addition of the grapefruit extract, which is supposed to help with absorption. I have no affiliations so you will get HONEST feedback from my as my cycle progresses. I have not run injectable tren before, so unfortunately I can't give a comparison there with the transadermal version.
Be well my friends
34 y/o
6'2
235
13-14% bf
Here's the plan:
1-4 Beastdrol 20/30/30/30
1-10 Trans Tren Base 50-75 mg per day (grapefruit caps 1x per day)
1-10 Test Cyp (Phizer Pharm) 200mg / week (reg TRT dose is 100, bumping to 200 for cycle)
5-10 T3 50-100mcg per day
5-10 Trans Anavar (MAYBE - haven't decided on this yet)
Supports/Ancillaries:
1-10 N2 Guard
1-10 BLOCKADE by Assault Labs (doubling up on cycle/organ support)
1-10 Caber .5 - 2x per week
1-10 Aromasin 12.5 EOD
1-10 Forma - on hand if needed for bloat, and/or PCT
1-10 HC Generate
PCT
I'm on TRT so not a real formal PCT here.
I am planning on running a bottle of unleashed, and Dspark post cycle, as well as a bottle of T3 PCT from NTBM. As well as continuing on the HCGen.
Diet:
High carbs weeks 1-4 with beast, moving into a CKD type diet for second half.
1-4 - 4000 to 5000 cals shooting for 400-500 grams carbs and 300 protein - I'm doing this as cleanly as possible. Carb sources are mostly oats and fruit. Adding in some potatoes and rice as needed. Proteins are mostly relatively low in fat (chicken, ground turkey, lean ground beef, sirloin/top round steak for meats. Other proteins: greek yogurt, nuts, whole eggs, PB, WTBM and True Nutrition blend powders)
5-10 - 3000 cals, high proteins, moderate to high fats, very low carbs (refeed 1x per week if needed) I'm a little nervous about going low carb on Tren as I've heard you can crash from it, but I have read other opinions to the contrary also. Alas, I'm going to give it a go and if I have to introduce more carbs, then I will do so.
Goals:
Put on some quality size with Beast, then use 2nd half of cycle to cut and lean out. I am an endomorph to the n'th degree so putting on size is a piece of cake for me. However, I am not interested in becoming a whole lot bigger than I already am. Thus, I am not looking to blow up here, but rather put on a few nice KEEPABLE gains without adding too much fat in the process. I have some areas I would like to improve on, which will be my focus rather than just putting on size for the sake of putting on size. Of course the irony here is that I have the genetics to put on size so easily, but I don't want it. If only I could trade genes with some of you ectos out there who want to be big!
Ok so here's an update. I have just completed the first week of this cycle. I am up 15lbs....yes, 15lbs. See more on this when I get to the diet, and water/bloat sides below. I have noticed some strength increases in the gym during last week's workouts, probably from Beast I'm guessing. Not crazy increases, but another rep or 2 on most of my lifts. Pumps have been really impressive and I feel pumped up in the morning even before my workouts. Honestly I just feel pumped all day like my muscles are full and tight. Particularly during workouts, my forearms have pumped to an insane amount almost to the point where I lose my grip easily on heavy pull days.
Typical Week of workouts:
Day 1: Chest
Day 2: Back
Day 3: Legs
Day 4: Shoulders
Day 5: Bis/Tris
I tend to stick to weights that keep me in the 10-15 rep range for all lifts. I don't like going overly heavy as I lift alone at home, and also, I don't want to be at greater risk for injury by pushing heavier weights. I have been able to grow with higher reps and I don't plan on changing until I see a reason to.
Cardio:
I'll be lowering my typical load of cardio down to about 4x per week, 45 minutes. This is just to stay in shape. I want to keep my endurance and muscle memory there so when I want to kill the cardio again post cycle it is still there.
Side Effects:
1) Energy - DOWN. Lethargy has been a brutal but not the entire day. Usually later on in the day. I think it is my diet and not superdrol. I have typically been on a lower carb diet for quite a while. Carbs tend to make me lethargic which seems to be contrary to what most folks say, but I always feel best on low carb diets. My workouts have been pretty good despite the lethargy. It is hard to start, but once I get going the energy seems to be there.
2) BLoated like a MF'er. Again, this is diet related I'm nearly positive. I am seriously holding water despite my aromasin and forma usage. I look pregnant, but with some abs...very odd!
3) Headaches - from the superdrol. They were awful days 1-4 or so, but honestly, I haven't had one since so I"m crossing my fingers that I have weathered that storm.
4) Pumps - so far, only good pumps. Nothing that has been a hindrance other than occasional shin splints during cardio....but honestly I deal with that here and there no matter what I"m on, if anything.
Overall sides have been manageable but the bloating really sucks.
Ok, so there's my update. Like I said, I am just starting week 2 and bumping SD to 30mg per day so we'll see how that treats me. I'm already bigger and stronger after 1 week so I'd say that is a damn fine start.
I'll try to give a few updates every week as I have time. I am following gator's protocol for the transadermal application with the addition of the grapefruit extract, which is supposed to help with absorption. I have no affiliations so you will get HONEST feedback from my as my cycle progresses. I have not run injectable tren before, so unfortunately I can't give a comparison there with the transadermal version.
Be well my friends
