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Torn Elbow Tendons & Gear update:

holy ghost

holy ghost

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For all of you have been wondering, I got back from the Dr's today....

i have tears in both outer elbows (commonly referred to as an extreme case of tennis elbow)

heres my recovery protocol i was instructed to follow

1. Received a corticosteroid shot[depo-medrol]*cuts down recovery time by a few weeks thank god.
2. Glucosamine, Gelatin, vitamin c 4-5g ED, Calcium citrate 2x ed, Bananas 4xed
3. methylprednisolone 6 day cycle to taper off the cortizone steroid shots and help reinforce the healing process

So im going to take 2 weeks off as instructed and see how it turns out,
too bad just wen i start getting shredded. Oh well its winter, i can be fat.

I am going to continue to do cardio 3x ew and Legs/midsection 3x ew....
I am also going to continue my cycle throughout my recovery to help enhance regeneration, tissue and tendon strength. I am on 600mg trenbolone, 400mg Equipoise - boldenone undecylenate - , 1500mg test. I am going to significantly drop those dosages while in my recovery.

I also got my BP checked and it was normal despite all those drugs im taking!
amazing! Wish me luck fellas, thanks for your support. nothing biggie like Quadsweep, wish him luck as well!

he also gave me a neosporin support-compression wrap w/ cold pack
and A topical pain releaving gel called "SOMBRA" its supposed to blow icy hot out of the water.
 
do the crips have an insurance plan now?
 
Sorry to hear bro, I had a tear a few years back when competing for a show. It was the worst ever. I couldnt come my hair, brush my teeth, or open the door. It was god damn frustrating, ruins your whole workout. I feel your pain.. Hope you get better to get back in the game
 
shit, sorry to hear about the injury, i hope you get recovered, injuries are the worst thing in the world man, im just coming off an injury in my shoulder and that sucked. Best of luck broo
 
yes thanks for the support fellas, i made this thread becuase My DOC and statistics also show that an exceeding amount of BB'ers are developing tenodonitis, golfers elbow and tennis elbow from certain range of motions

this is meant to be informative, Guys if you are feeling a pain in your joints or tendons that is not normal, STOP! If you have had lingering injuries for a while now, please do your body a favor and get them checked and taken care of.
 
Heres some information on corticosteroids for all of us sitting on the Disabled and bench list lol

What are corticosteroids?

Corticosteroids are a class of medications that are related to cortisone. Medications of this class reduce inflammation powerfully. They are used to reduce inflammation caused by a variety of diseases. Cortisone is one type of corticosteroid. For the purpose of this review, "cortisone" is used interchangeably with "corticosteroid."

Corticosteroids can be taken by mouth, inhaled, applied to the skin, given intravenously (into a vein), or injected into the tissues of the body. Examples of corticosteroids include prednisone and prednisolone (given by mouth), solumedrol (given intravenously), as well as triamcinolone, kenalog, celestone, depomedrol and others (given by injection into body tissues). This article describes the role of cortisone injections into the soft tissues and joints.


Is a cortisone injection merely a pain reliever or temporary remedy?

Corticosteroids are not pain relievers. They reduce inflammation. When corticosteroids relieve pain it is because they have reduced inflammation.

While the inflammation for which corticosteroids are given can recur, corticosteroid injections can provide months to years of relief when used properly. These injections also can cure diseases (permanently resolve them) when the problem is tissue inflammation localized to a small area, such as bursitis and tendonitis.


For what conditions are cortisone injections used?

Cortisone injections can be used to treat the inflammation of small areas of the body (local injections) or they can be used to treat inflammation that is widespread throughout the body (systemic injections). Examples of conditions for which local cortisone injections are used include inflammation of a bursa (bursitis), a tendon (tendonitis), and a joint (arthritis). Systemic corticosteroid injections are used for conditions such as allergic reactions, asthma, and rheumatoid arthritis affecting many joints.


if anyone wants any more info just let me know
 
cdownie927 said:
Or just do Deca-Durabolin - nandrolone decanoate - , na just kidding it will just mask the problem get it looked at if not it will only get worse
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sure for pulling water into the joints

i am on 1500mg of test E bro i think it does about the same

but it serves no purpose for tendon tears

and youre right it may mask the problem.
 
i have had some painful bouts of tennis elbow
heres is what helped me
get yourself a tennis elbow brace this made the biggest difference
it helps keep the tendon pinned down at a lower point and takes the stress of the damged area
i also had good luck heating the area everynight and giving myself real deep massages on the wounded tendon
time off i s the biggest factor witch if your like me and enjoy training you will find this next to impossible
i also found ways to work around the injury using machines and what not
i found the biggest factor is gripping things ,when you squeeze tight it pulls on the tendon
i would use as little antiinflamitorys as possible they will slow down the healing process
i know where your at man watch the diet do your cardio and rest and you will be back in no time
good luck
 
excellent advice! thanks brother!
yes i have wrist straps for pulling motions ( tbar etc)
and elbow braces AND tennis elbow straps.
 
looks like you have a good start
i would just lay off all uperbody excersizes for 2 weeks and kill my legs and abs
and of course do as much cardio as possible
when you do go back to working out ease into it
i know that sounds like common knowledge but these injuries happen so fast all it takes is one fuck up and its back
use machine as muck as possible when you gety back into it
 
thanks bro, how long did it take for your pains to subside?
what was your procedure in taking care of your Ten ElbowS?
 
best of luck

listen to your body

you have been doing this long enough to know when the proper time to come back full throttle is
 
holy ghost said:
thanks guys you are great bros!!! !
what you been up to hyp?
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hitting the weights really hard,just started tren ace @75 ed stacked with masteron a week ago,with test sustaplex,and equipoise
 
holy ghost said:
gettin all beasty at the gym lucky ass!
THats a bad azz cycle
Equipoise - boldenone undecylenate - is the Shit when running trenbolone
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thanks bro,I love running equipoise with trenbolone to me it's a must to overcome the negative effect the tren has on my breathing and cardio.
 
holy ghost said:
For all of you have been wondering, I got back from the Dr's today....

i have tears in both outer elbows (commonly referred to as an extreme case of tennis elbow)

heres my recovery protocol i was instructed to follow

1. Received a corticosteroid shot[depo-medrol]*cuts down recovery time by a few weeks thank god.
2. Glucosamine, Gelatin, vitamin c 4-5g ED, Calcium citrate 2x ed, Bananas 4xed
3. methylprednisolone 6 day cycle to taper off the cortizone steroid shots and help reinforce the healing process

So im going to take 2 weeks off as instructed and see how it turns out,
too bad just wen i start getting shredded. Oh well its winter, i can be fat.

I am going to continue to do cardio 3x ew and Legs/midsection 3x ew....
I am also going to continue my cycle throughout my recovery to help enhance regeneration, tissue and tendon strength. I am on 600mg trenbolone, 400mg Equipoise - boldenone undecylenate - , 1500mg test. I am going to significantly drop those dosages while in my recovery.

I also got my BP checked and it was normal despite all those drugs im taking!
amazing! Wish me luck fellas, thanks for your support. nothing biggie like Quadsweep, wish him luck as well!

he also gave me a neosporin support-compression wrap w/ cold pack
and A topical pain releaving gel called "SOMBRA" its supposed to blow icy hot out of the water.
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DAmn fool good luck..Maybe i missed it but how did it happen?
 
thanks big dog,

Behind Neck Tricep DB extentions
I was maxing and my fucking elbows Bowed out and had sharp pains but I compled the motion regardless, my elbows went numb.

I am 99.99% sure that is how it happened
 
holy ghost said:
Hey bro, I thought Alfultop was for Joint issues?

I have access to it yes.
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well If I remember correctly, it has both anti-inflamatory and regen. properties as well ...both I think would help your efforts

I know it helped my shoulder injury (anterior capsular tear)

did two 21 day runs with it
1st run had a significant impact
2nd run did even more
 
holy ghost said:
jesus bro thanks for the advice!!

i might hve to give it a shot

is it injected Intra muscularily?
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yes it's IM

though, I've also have heard of localized inj. to the aflicted area (might be tricky around your elbow)

if nothing more, because of the anti-inflam properties, it will create a great enviroment for recovery/healing

remember, your injury is gonna take some time ...elbow injuries tend to be bad and easy to reinjure if you try to do too much too soon
 
holy ghost said:
yes thanks for the support fellas, i made this thread becuase My DOC and statistics also show that an exceeding amount of BB'ers are developing tenodonitis, golfers elbow and tennis elbow from certain range of motions

this is meant to be informative, Guys if you are feeling a pain in your joints or tendons that is not normal, STOP! If you have had lingering injuries for a while now, please do your body a favor and get them checked and taken care of.
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Sorry to hear that Ghost!!! :worried:
Hey bro did papa BigPHX call it or what???
Cortisone and REST!!! Should clear it up in 2 to 3 weeks. You will want to start training right after you get the first shot because the pain will go away from the injections. DONT TRAIN!!! 2 to 3 weeks off!!! End of story!!!

Also there are several things you should change how you train(not a bad idea any way to change things up) and also do some forearm building but dont go back and start pounding you forearms! Ease into it. I've had the same shit for years and figured out how to get around it...

The movements that hurt you avoid or switch to 1 day heavy next rountine light.(This works for me!) Example... Hammer curls and close grip t-bar rows FUCKS ME UP so I have a heavy day and next time a light day on the target movements. I AM NOT talking heavy light the full routine JUST the target movements that hurt your arms.

When I feel tennis or golf elbow acting up out come the forearm straps and topical cortisone and DMSO for several day until it clears up, I also avoid the movement that fucks me up until I'm 100% again.<<<AVOID MOVEMENT!

I have one other secret weapon I use and this one is GOOD...
Just before I leave to go to the gym I pull out of the freezer 2 soft ice packs, now check this out... I get done working out my arm got that little pain going on I pull out my forearm straps and ice soft packs, place the pack on the forearm and put the wrap around it. TADA! Think about pro baseball pitcher they got that arm on ice in seconds after the last pitch. I drive home like this and its FUNNY as fuck when people look but hell this works kick-ass!!!

Bro this shit has taken me OUT of the gym countless times!!! Above is how I beat it. Hope this helps you and any other bros.

Oh yea HEAT only made it worse so I would stay away from heat on this type of injury reguardless of what you hear.

Also you may want to rub some barely legal on it too!(Wont hurt :evil:

Oh yea one more thing the doctor you are using... is he a sports doctor? If not you may want to seriously consider shopping for one and look for one that is specialized in "trigger point injections"<<<KEY any doctor can jab you with cortisone but you want that mother fucker in the "right" place. My doctor treats pro football and baseball players and this is his area of expertise. So make your your doc is on the ball with this.

Damn it!!!! One more thing... Get your mind in the movements and be aware of hand placement i.e. when you do dumbell curls notice that your wrists stay locked and not bent back through the movement. I catch myself all the time, I will get a pain in my forearm and sure enough my hand and wrist placement is off!(bent back wrist)

I think I got tennis elbow writting this post! Wheres the barely legal???

Take care bro!

BigGuyPHX
 
fuck bro that was great advice! thanx
yeah im staying on AAS to help with regen
they gave me the shot in my ass it was a lot of Ccs i noticed
it looked like winstrol i identified it in orig post

taking it easy in first weeks
i will continue doing cardio and legs
 
holy ghost said:
fuck bro that was great advice! thanx
yeah im staying on anabolic androgenic steroids to help with regen
they gave me the shot in my ass it was a lot of Ccs i noticed
it looked like winstrol i identified it in orig post

taking it easy in first weeks
i will continue doing cardio and legs
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No problem bro just use some of that great advice! :)

The problem with that injury is your mind sez GO and your body sez STOP!

I beat it, you can too bro.

BigGuy
 
holy ghost said:
sure for pulling water into the joints

i am on 1500mg of testosterone enanthate bro i think it does about the same

but it serves no purpose for tendon tears

and youre right it may mask the problem.
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Mask the problem? Is this Haloween?

Do some reading on Deca-Durabolin - nandrolone decanoate - tonight bro - it was MADE for it's regenerative properties.

I would NEVER recover from an Injury w/out Deca or gh - growth hormone (somatropin) - . I don;t know any nationally ranked lifter that doesn;t keep Deca on hand to help injuries along.

Some of us can;t just stop lifting.... we have a meet to get ready for.

200mg/wk is PLENTY, BTW
 
yes i have ran it many times
I will do some reading later on the regenative properties

i just dont want to mix another anabolic androgenic steroids in my boatload already
especially a nandrolone

i have deca on hand.
 
holy ghost said:
yes i have ran it many times
I will do some reading later on the regenative properties

i just dont want to mix another anabolic androgenic steroids in my boatload already
especially a nandrolone
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Personally I would do:

Drop the Tren for now... I know, it's hard!

Test 500/wk
Deca 200mg/wk
GH 3IU/day

Run that till you are 100%, and then get after it.
 
i can make that happen, i will strongly consider adding deca and GH to the regimen

thanks brother. i will keep yall updated

do you think tren is going to have a neg affect on my healing? i might research it later.
 
holy ghost said:
1. Received a corticosteroid shot[depo-medrol]*cuts down recovery time by a few weeks thank god.
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WRONG! It will greatly reduce your bodys natural healing for months to come.

Im not going to go into details because most people dont listen but if your serious about long term lifting, do yourself a favor and do some research on tendon/ligament damage. Do a google on prolotherapy to get some good info about why corticosteroids are a bad idea.....or blindly follow your doc. Either way, best of luck.
 
Hope you heal fast, bro! I just had an MRI on my elbow/triceps and a cortisone shot in my shoulder. The cortisone did not help. I think I have a slight pec tear and the pain radiated into the shoulder. Also, I have a slight triceps tear. Its funny, i barely fit into the MRI.

Anyways, get well fast. and listen to AL.
 
Yeah. I dont see the point of wasting tren when you cant use it for its strengths (i.e. strength) Al is an OLY lifter and knows his stuff when it comes to the specific drugs you are using. I think he once said he has two basic cycles : 1.) test/deca/dbol to bulk
2.) test/tren to cut.
 
Yeah im going to drop the tren and run deca at 200-300mg ew for about 10 wks

do you think that will suffice? thanks for your advice guys.
 
holy ghost said:
about dropping the trenbolone and getting on the Deca-Durabolin - nandrolone decanoate - -Durabolin - nandrolone decanoate - -Durabolin - nandrolone decanoate - ?
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Fuck it Ghost just quit lifting and start rappin!!! :magilicut
I'll be you manager! I can see it now...
Holly Ghost and 50 kickin it out loud! Maybe get that white boy from Detroit in there too???

CASH and tons of Barely Legal pussy every where!!!!! :evil: :spatts: :evil:

Now thats a plan.

BigG Records, Inc.
 
Hahaha

I gotta lotta loot but i Aint lookin for a lady
and you can never play me im from uptown baby
I wake up in tha mornin take a piss and wash my hands
take a knee and thank tha man, and get back to da money!
yeen know? I gotta go ? where ya goin? I gotta get back 2 the money!
 
holy ghost said:
Hahaha

I gotta lotta loot but i Aint lookin for a lady
and you can never play me im from uptown baby
I wake up in tha mornin take a piss and wash my hands
take a knee and thank tha man, and get back to da money!
yeen know? I gotta go ? where ya goin? I gotta get back 2 the money!
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YEA! YEA!

Break it down...

Ghost in the MOTHER FUCKIN HOUSE!!!
:dance2: :dance2: :dance2: :dance2: :dance2: :dance2: :dance2:
 
Check check...

I got sumtin' to say, and I need the world to hear it. I'm a lyricologist. I can rap about anything. Shrink, shrink. Blinkity-blink. Tried to make me think. Wanna go to my sink. And vomit. Clean it up wit' Comet. Earth is my planet.

See? I'm the shiznit.

:sick: :bigbuck:

BigG in da 313 :fistfullo
 
holy ghost said:
Thats detroit right? You hear eminems first CD he was all about that

i think its called infinite
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Fuckin A Ghost you know your white boyz!!!

Yep all bout 313 but the 810 is good for that rich corn feed barely legal pussy I luv soo much!

You know ghost if anyone read this post they will see just how fucked up we are!

LMAO 2 IT HURTS!

BigG
 
holy ghost said:
so im going to hop on Deca-Durabolin - nandrolone decanoate -

ill be on test, Equipoise - boldenone undecylenate - and Deca-Durabolin - nandrolone decanoate -
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Talk about changing the subject...

Oh wait this is the subject!

Where is that big fuckin green needto???
 
BigGuyPHX said:
Fuck it Ghost just quit lifting and start rappin!!! :magilicut
I'll be you manager! I can see it now...
Holly Ghost and 50 kickin it out loud! Maybe get that white boy from Detroit in there too???

CASH and tons of Barely Legal pussy every where!!!!! :evil: :spatts: :evil:

Now thats a plan.

BigG Records, Inc.
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olololololololol
 
BigGuyPHX said:
Check check...

I got sumtin' to say, and I need the world to hear it. I'm a lyricologist. I can rap about anything. Shrink, shrink. Blinkity-blink. Tried to make me think. Wanna go to my sink. And vomit. Clean it up wit' Comet. Earth is my planet.

See? I'm the shiznit.

:sick: :bigbuck:

BigG in da 313 :fistfullo
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olololololol

You're one funny motherfucker bro lol :)

p.s. Ghost, hope your elbow heals up nicely w/ that deca :)
 
Fuck So heres what im going to do

Drop the trenbolone tomorrow :(

then lower test to 800mg ew

and start Deca-Durabolin - nandrolone decanoate - -Durabolin - nandrolone decanoate - 400mg ew ??? or should i keep it at 200?

keeping Equipoise - boldenone undecylenate - at 400mg for EPO purposes

has anyone supplemented Winstrol - stanozolol for recovery of collagen and muscle/tendon tear purposes? I know Anavar - oxandrolone - is great for this but i dont have any around


I might just not come off for like 20-30 more weeks

who knows. coast island might be a possibility
 
check this one out about Testosterone


Using either a bone-ligament-bone or a muscle-tendon-bone preparation, numerous investigators have demonstrated that the usual site of separation is in the transitional zone between the ligament (or tendon) and bone; hence, the term junction strength or load at separation is used to describe functional changes in these preparations. Junction strength is decreased with inactivity (immobilization) and increased with chronic activity (training) provided that the exercise program is of an endurance nature. Training also increases junction strength in thyroidectomized and hypophysectomized rats. Besides in junction strength, training results in heavier ligaments and higher ligament weight/length ratios. However, water content, collagen concentrations/dry weight or collagen concentration per weight/length unit are not significantly influenced by repeated bouts of exercise. Although immobilization is associated with lower elastic stiffness values (kg/mm), training appears to have little influence on this measure in normal animals. Rats and dogs with surgically repaired ligaments are weaker and the strength results are markedly lower if the leg is immobilized. Exercise training improves the repair strength of ligaments but does not result in normal values twelve weeks after the surgery. Exogenous administration of ICSH or testosterone results in higher repair strength whereas TSH, thyroxine, ACTH and growth hormone decreases this measure. It was concluded that the mechanical stress produced by chronic exercise is an important determination of the strength of repaired ligaments and of the junctions between ligaments (or tendons) and bones.
 
heres another one about Anabolics and peptides and their influences on healing

OBJECTIVE: The purpose of this paper is to present an overview of the interrelationship between hormones, nutrition, and wound healing. METHODS: The data on various hormones and their effects on specific elements of nutrition and wound healing are reviewed. RESULTS: The key anabolic hormones are human growth hormone, insulin-like growth factor-1, insulin, and testosterone and its analogs. Although each has specific metabolic actions, there is also a very important hormone-hormone interaction. A deficiency of these hormones occurs in acute and chronic catabolic states, resulting in lean mass loss and impairing the healing process. CONCLUSION: There is a well-recognized interrelationship between hormones, nutrition, and wound healing. The anabolic process of protein synthesis, with new tissue formation, requires the action of anabolic hormones. Exogenous administration of these agents has been shown to maintain or increase lean body mass as well as directly stimulate the healing process through their anabolic and anticatabolic actions.
 
Thanks, I got down to about 9% bf on this one

now im probably about low 11s

i stopped the Tren, going to hop on 400mg deca ew
400mg eq ew and 800mg test ew

that should speed up my healing , i shall keep you all posted

thx for support
 
holy ghost said:
Thanks, I got down to about 9% bf on this one

now im probably about low 11s

i stopped the trenbolone, going to hop on 400mg Deca-Durabolin - nandrolone decanoate - ew
400mg Equipoise - boldenone undecylenate - ew and 800mg test ew

that should speed up my healing , i shall keep you all posted

thx for support
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man your one educated gangsta, how many scraps do you have a week G, when they see you they run lol


:chomp:
 
i appreciate it big dog , I am staying out of the mix as much as possib right now becuase of my fucked up elbows but iwas on the brink a few times today at the gym

bodybuilding is my life, it is the only thing that truly keeps me happy
I spend all of my time over the years researching nutriton/fitness/dieting

and trying different steroids and combinations

also researching supplements, using them as well

I have been trainin for a few months now as well at my gym......

It sucks being injured !

they run or they bust out fileros ya....

unless there Way deep then its all gos
 
holy ghost said:
yes thanks for the support fellas, i made this thread becuase My DOC and statistics also show that an exceeding amount of BB'ers are developing tenodonitis, golfers elbow and tennis elbow from certain range of motions

this is meant to be informative, Guys if you are feeling a pain in your joints or tendons that is not normal, STOP! If you have had lingering injuries for a while now, please do your body a favor and get them checked and taken care of.
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Youll be alright bro, try your best to maximize the downtime and relax....youll be back to the heavy iron in no time.
 
BigGuyPHX said:
Check check...

I got sumtin' to say, and I need the world to hear it. I'm a lyricologist. I can rap about anything. Shrink, shrink. Blinkity-blink. Tried to make me think. Wanna go to my sink. And vomit. Clean it up wit' Comet. Earth is my planet.

See? I'm the shiznit.

:sick: :bigbuck:

BigG in da 313 :fistfullo
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Damn B-Rad, You must be From the "Bu"
 
holy ghost said:
i appreciate it big dog , I am staying out of the mix as much as possib right now becuase of my fucked up elbows but iwas on the brink a few times today at the gym

bodybuilding is my life, it is the only thing that truly keeps me happy
I spend all of my time over the years researching nutriton/fitness/dieting

and trying different steroids and combinations

also researching supplements, using them as well

I have been trainin for a few months now as well at my gym......

It sucks being injured !

they run or they bust out fileros ya....

unless there Way deep then its all gos
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what you up to bro, you keeping it real, hows the elbow

goku
 
holy ghost said:
whats that supposed to mean?
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I was just kidding ghost. Sorry if it offended you.
 
I wasnt offended big dog , I dont take anything anyone on here says seriously......

UPDATE: 800mg test ew, 400mg eq, 400mg deca

Elbow swelling has been subdued immensely, more restored movement in elbow and joints, no shockers numbness or stiff tendons, Seems to be going according to plan!
 
holy ghost said:
I wasnt offended big dog , I dont take anything anyone on here says seriously......

UPDATE: 800mg test ew, 400mg Equipoise - boldenone undecylenate - , 400mg Deca-Durabolin - nandrolone decanoate -

Elbow swelling has been subdued immensely, more restored movement in elbow and joints, no shockers numbness or stiff tendons, Seems to be going according to plan!
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good to here G,word on the street we home boys have to look for on another

lift in peace

goku
 
I'm assuming that deka would work just as well for Achilles tendinitis as it is working for your elbow?

I can't shake it and I have it in both legs right now. I'm assuming that 30 miles per week on tuesday, thursday, saturday isn't doing me any favors.

If you say it's working well G, I think I will give it a try too.



holy ghost said:
lol......

ya you know how we do it pimpin!
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Good luck!
I took methyprednisone and got vertigo.
That shit is crazy.
Don't work out while you take it as it will eat your muscles.
Cortizone shots scare me. They can do more damage then good. I avoid them at any cost.
Your a smart guy. Remember to take your time.
I increase the pounds so slow these days.
Its all form and range of motion.
Getting older and injured sucks!
 
SLAT- yeah, Thanks big dog, always good advice from you
If youre going to do it, do it right... corticos will eat your muscles? i have been doing legs and midsection, should I stop???

Matt- The decca is definately helping
The Equipoise - boldenone undecylenate - is providing increased EPO hence more nutrients to the tears.....
Have you supplemented Anavar - oxandrolone - or Turanabol?
I have some great articles about how it is great for tendon strength and repair
I have a friend testimonial also.
 
holy ghost said:
SLAT- yeah, Thanks big dog, always good advice from you
If youre going to do it, do it right... corticos will eat your muscles? i have been doing legs and midsection, should I stop???
QUOTE]

Double check on a med site.
From what I was told those steroids are the type you don't want!
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Lol some guy told me he had some oral corticosteroids that i actually am taking

methylpredisolone

and he was wondering what kinds of gains he would get LMAO
 
After several painful shots in my elbow I went and had the surgery. It works great now. Only wish I had done it sooner.
 
I didnt go that route, that induces a high risk of infection
I know this because a few local vets have done some fucking up with those corticosteroid site injections
 
I didn't do the shots myself a doc did them. Are you saying that infections came from a doc or vets giving themselves a shot?
 
Acutually they were distinguished vets woring on horse tendons But the Principal is there and i have seen it Fuck up one too many times

on the other hand there is a counter argument that 'bleeding' a tendon will induce faster recovery and immediate cell regeneration - this goes back centuries ago
 
holy ghost said:
SLAT- yeah, Thanks big dog, always good advice from you
If youre going to do it, do it right... corticos will eat your muscles? i have been doing legs and midsection, should I stop???
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Corticosteroids (like cortizone injections) inhibit inflammation. They also significantly impare the immune system, cause bloating and often times increased hunger.

There are times when they are required, but tendon and ligament damage for someone who is concerned with longevity is not one of those times.
 
errn247 said:
do the crips have an insurance plan now?
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HA HA HA HA HA LMFAO...........man your playing with dynamite.

When are you due? Twins? Quints?

Why don't you tell my man ghost you are sorry. That was over the line.
 
Glad to hear your getting back to pimpin bitches and hittin weights or is it the other way around? lol
 
halfcenturian said:
HA HA HA HA HA LMFAO...........man your playing with dynamite.

When are you due? Twins? Quints?

Why don't you tell my man ghost you are sorry. That was over the line.
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due jan 20th. it is a girl and she is doing fucking flips in my girls stomach. it is funny to watch her stomach actually move. kinda freaky if ya ask me. I am nervous but excited too.
 
how ya doing ghost?
 
errn247 said:
how ya doing ghost?
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He's still bitchin and moaning!!! :qt:

Yea Ghost how ya doing bro?

You better be resting that injury and not lifting anything more than one of those fatty ghetto blunts. :rasta: LMAO

BigGuy
 
LORDIE LORDIE LORDIE!!!

Yeah im resting,im on a little of that Doctor MJ therapy Just finished cycle of methylpredisolone (cortico oral)

elbow has ben doing a lot better right seems healed....left still gets swollen sometimes unexpectedly, PHX i want to mix letro and DMSO for topical anti estrogen.......


any info
 
Here is how to take care of your elbows.

1. Use equiblock dt or stop pain 30 minutes BEFORE training.
2. Use neoprene sleeves.
3. Flush the area with blood as a warm-up(ex. pushdownsx100)
4. Stay away from ACCESSORY movements that severely iritate it (You'll just have to suck it up on ME)
5. Ice for 20 minutes on and 20 minutes off ASAP after workout. Ice is a miracle drug!! Nobody wants to take the time or effort to use it but it actually HEALS the problem. This is the most important step of all. Just put ice in a ziplock baggie and put it on the area that hurts. Ya the ice is gonna be cold and it does hurt for 5 or so minutes but then it will feel good. I also use these velcro ice packs from http://www.sporties.net/Detail.bok?no=16
6. Take 800mg of ibuprofin 3x per day until your problem clears up.
7. Find a good joint support formula such as Joint Complex by Gearman Nutrition at http://www.gearmannutrition.com/news...?page=home.cfm or Syn-Flex and take it religously. It takes a long time to feel the results of this but you will eventually feel them.
8. Supplement your diet with fish oil capsules and Vitamin C these are both natural anti-inflammatories.
9. You must do ALL of these to help, you can't just pick one or two you must do them ALL.
10. You can also do expand your hand bands, wrist curls and hammer curls, all of these make my elbows feel better.
11. For severe issues, get a big bowl and fill it with ice, water and 2 tablespoons of salt, stick your elbow directly in it and keep it in there for 10 minutes. Dry it off and wrap it with a heating pad for 10 minutes, repeat twice.
12. If you have done all of the above and are still having problems then it's time to take a few days off.


This is from a Top 10 APF Powerlifter. These guys live by taking care of elbows.
 
holy ghost said:
LORDIE LORDIE LORDIE!!!

Yeah im resting,im on a little of that Doctor MJ therapy Just finished cycle of methylpredisolone (cortico oral)

elbow has ben doing a lot better right seems healed....left still gets swollen sometimes unexpectedly, PHX i want to mix Femera - letrozole - and DMSO for topical anti estrogen.......


any info
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No info on the Femera but you may be thinking of the proviron DMSO mix I did for gyno, on that i mixed 25mg proviron with 1.5cc DMSO. Apply .5cc 3 times a day.

Coolio.

BigGuy
 
AL GREAT INFO BRO I am doing all that 4g ed vit c 3ged flax


ok i have take about 3 weeks off from Upper body, it still gets swollen sometimes

but it does not hurt!! When do i know when it is safe to workout?

I am going to supplement the ibeuprofin for a few days on and off

Please keep sharing ....


PHX- was it liquid proviron? I am going to mix Letro with DMSO, this is going to be breakthrough shit, i need a recipe :)
 
holy ghost said:
AL GREAT INFO BRO I am doing all that 4g ed vit c 3ged flax


ok i have take about 3 weeks off from Upper body, it still gets swollen sometimes

but it does not hurt!! When do i know when it is safe to workout?

I am going to supplement the ibeuprofin for a few days on and off

Please keep sharing ....


PHX- was it liquid proviron? I am going to mix Femera - letrozole - with DMSO, this is going to be breakthrough shit, i need a recipe :)
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First off what kind of weight are you throwing up when you are healthy. Bench, Sqaut, Dead, Incline's.. whatever really?

So I compete in Oly Weightliting meets and Powerlifting meets. WHen I have shoulder issues (try snatching) I lay off pressing totally till I can do the following.

On the flat bench, i prefer bands b/c this is essentially speed work. Really light weight. Say may top work sets are 300+ healthy, I do this w/ 95 w/ mini bands. I do 20reps in a ROM where there was never pain, then 20 only in the ROM that hurt, then 20 full ROM. Do that for a week, every day you are in there killing your legs and posterior chain, abs, triceps...shit, you got lots of fun you can be having.

Then I do full ROM for 60 sec trying for maximun reps, and work a linear periodization model... adding reps to the 60 till I get to 100, then add weight for 1 more week.

Then I work back up like i was coming into a deload. so 60% of whatever your top set is (regardless or sets/reps) and dod that for 2 weeks, then 70% for onr, 80^
% for one, and then see where yoy are.

Also - do all the above. As we get older and continue to want to lift heavy we have to remember how much is nutition and injury prevention.

You need a foam roller, and you need to get ART or deep tissue work 1x a month if you can swing it.
 
holy ghost said:
PHX- was it liquid proviron? I am going to mix Femera - letrozole - with DMSO, this is going to be breakthrough shit, i need a recipe :)
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No it was tablet form chopped up like scarface :evil:

Correction it is .5cc of DMSO not 1.5cc

I just placed 3 tabs 75mg chopped FINE into a shot glass added 3cc of DMSO let it sit for 30 mitutes mixed WELL(it will all disolve and turn dmso clear/white) drawl it up in 3cc syringe no needle (duh) Apply .5cc 3 times a day. (per nip)

If you thinking about mixing Femera with DMSO please note that the liquid femera(like ag's) is based in grain alcohol which grain alcohol can actually be used as a transdermal carrier. I you mix DMSO to a liquid femera at a 50/50 ratio this would take in the area of the body transdemally very nice BUT I have ZERO idea if this is a good idea??? It all looks good on paper. The above 50/50 ratio would also be a good starting point and easy to know where your mgs would be in relation to volume. I got a few other ideas on this topic :chomp:

BigG
 
Fuck , thanks AL

195 10% 19.5bis pumped
healthy maxes
bench 400 (rep 315x10)
LegP 1.2g
DL 375-400 on a good day
Squat max not sure rep 450x10.....

my fucking elbow dosnt hurt as bad but it swells bigtime out of no where!!!

Thx PHX ill save that info
 
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