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[insanityapproved]

No man I'd say cut the dbol out alltogether and just run test+var the whole time. Problem solved

And don't think I have anything against dianabol, clearly not, I just think it ain't worth the sides as test will do the job even better at a reasonable dose. If you're mainly looking for strenght increase you should try test suspension and you will try no other I promise you that. 50mgs shot 3-4 hrs pre-workout. Works like magic. Ofcourse make sure you add some esterified test in there to prevent your T levels from fluctuating too much. I found that 50-100mgs of suspension + 50-100mgs of prop is the killer combo for me, more than that and I get no additional benefits but grossly increased sides. 50 + 50 should be more than enough for you .

 

[the small soldier]

So I'll replace the dbol with the anavar on that same protocol and you think that's a good recipe for some muscle gain/fat loss?

 

[gymjunkie09]

just read throught this whole thread, very inspiring...im sold on if , subbed

 

[insanityapproved]

So I'll replace the dbol with the anavar on that same protocol and you think that's a good recipe for some muscle gain/fat loss?

Well what you must understand is that anavar (at least at reasonable doses) is nowhere near as good a bulker as dianabol is. But it is much safer and can be used for longer periods of time without risk of serious side effects. I have ran it for 20 weeks straight without any issues.

So I would say yeah go with the test + var combo. Testosterone is the ultimate AAS and should be used by any beginner. In fact I always tell all of my clients to start of with test only cycles. IMHO the best way to go for a beginner is to keep doing test only cycles UNTIL they feel they are not progressing with it anymore OR they decide to step on stage. That's when other drugs come in as very useful. But nowadays (this forum is a great example) I see too many newbies without basic knowledge of training and nutrition posting their test/mast/tren cycles and I'm always thinking "what the hell" . Testosterone is what your body produces naturally. If the user knows what he is doing a test cycle can be virtually side-effect free, recovery can be relatively easy and results will be in most cases much better than with a coctail of other exotic drugs (which most users don't know shit about - they just wanna look ripped for the beach and the guy at the gym told them thats what winstrol does - so they go on a 6wk winstrol cycle. Then they come on the forums complaining about libido issues and achy joints. And the worst part of it... Sure they may have looked "ripped" on that beach but they haven't gained any muscle mass in the process but what they did get is some serious shutdown ---> so they end up actually looking much worse after PCT than they did prior to their cycle. This is so wrong my head hurts and this is why steroids are a banned substance

 

[RickRock13]

Great info in this log man. I am really learning a lot in here. I will definitely head over when you set up your online consultations. I have a few questions for you related to setting up my IF diet the best way for muscle gain without adding the fat since I'm about to start a cycle in a couple weeks. I have been doing IF for a long time, and I know that things have to be changed to tailor to your specific goal at the time when doing it to get the most out of it. With that said, my plan is to do 4 days of weights each week and 3 days of just cardio (I typically keep them on different days and eat for the goal that day). My plan was to go with just a 12 hour fast on weight training days so that I have a meal immediately post workout and cals for the day will be around 20-30% over maintenance. The cardio days will be the typical 16/8 IF setup with BCAAs before and after training and every couple hours before breaking fast. My cals will be around 20% under maintenance with lower carb amounts (probably under 50g) per day. The plan of mine is to add as much muscle as possible with no fat gain. It is going into the nice weather and staying at my current bodyfat (6%) is top priority while adding as much muscle as I can. The cycle will be Test/NPP/Masteron. Would appreciate your thoughts on it if you have the time, but I dont want to hijack your log either...lol

 

[insanityapproved]

Great info in this log man. I am really learning a lot in here. I will definitely head over when you set up your online consultations. I have a few questions for you related to setting up my IF diet the best way for muscle gain without adding the fat since I'm about to start a cycle in a couple weeks. I have been doing IF for a long time, and I know that things have to be changed to tailor to your specific goal at the time when doing it to get the most out of it. With that said, my plan is to do 4 days of weights each week and 3 days of just cardio (I typically keep them on different days and eat for the goal that day). My plan was to go with just a 12 hour fast on weight training days so that I have a meal immediately post workout and cals for the day will be around 20-30% over maintenance. The cardio days will be the typical 16/8 IF setup with BCAAs before and after training and every couple hours before breaking fast. My cals will be around 20% under maintenance with lower carb amounts (probably under 50g) per day. The plan of mine is to add as much muscle as possible with no fat gain. It is going into the nice weather and staying at my current bodyfat (6%) is top priority while adding as much muscle as I can. The cycle will be Test/NPP/Masteron. Would appreciate your thoughts on it if you have the time, but I dont want to hijack your log either...lol

Sounds to me like an awesome plan. How much cardio you planning to do on those 3 days? If money isn't an issue I'd throw in some albuterol in there. Works like magic for me. Take it on your cardio days only which will also almost completely prevent receptor downregulation. And personally I'd dump the NPP and up the test dose. From my experience you'll get same or even better results with much easier recovery and less sides. What doses were you planning to run those at anyway?

 

[the small soldier]

The only reason I'm even using anavar or Dbol is because all my test is E and I like a little jump start. I don't plan on running the anavar or Dbol the whole time. My concern is recovery. I'd be blasting and cruisng (modestly) for nearly a year before coming off. Should I run Hcg or anything to keep nuts going during the year, or just let them shrivel and hit hcg hard when its time to come off?

 

[insanityapproved]

Keep the HCG for PCT. And keep your dosages controlled. Do not run it for more than 2-3 weeks. It can do more harm than good. So you don't have to hit it "hard" as this can further suppress your gonadotrophin release.

Funny thing is I've been blasting and cruising for several years and never used any HCG and my average testicular volume when crusing is around 15cc, which is not far from normal (avg for adults is 18-20). Don't really know how this is possible but hey I won't complain

 

[RickRock13]

Sounds to me like an awesome plan. How much cardio you planning to do on those 3 days? If money isn't an issue I'd throw in some albuterol in there. Works like magic for me. Take it on your cardio days only which will also almost completely prevent receptor downregulation. And personally I'd dump the NPP and up the test dose. From my experience you'll get same or even better results with much easier recovery and less sides. What doses were you planning to run those at anyway?

Thanks for the reply. I generally do 60-75 minutes of cardio in the AM in the fasted state (BCAA before and after)

I will take your recommendations seriously, specifically adding in the albuterol, and I may drop the NPP too. I have plenty of test if I want to up the dosage if I choose to go that route.

Dosages I had planned were..

Test E 500mg/wk 1-12 (250mg 2x)
Masteron E 500mg/wk 1-12 (250mg 2x)
NPP 200mg/wk 1-10 (100mg 2x)

I might also add I considered adding Var in, but I have a lot of other orals on hand that I wanted to use, so I'm using EPI as a kickstart for the first 6 weeks. I respond very well to it. I can still get Var if I want but this is what i had planned

 

[insanityapproved]

That is going to be one helluva great cycle bro. The choice about the nandrolone is yours ofcourse. That was just my opinion. I never use any nandrolones and neither do any of my clients. For the obvious reasons.

Here's what I would do:

Test E 500mg 1-12
Mast E 500mg 1-12
Anavar 80mg 1-4
Anavar 40mg 4-12 OR Primobolan depot 500mg 1-12