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@ soldier

Sorry I have to say this but you're far from 14% BF. I'd say you're well over 20% (according to those pics). It's kind of hard to tell your potential because I can't even see your frame well (which is extremely important - for most guys their body structure tells you instantly where they could get in BB.
I see people often underestimate their BF%. If you were 14% that would mean you only have about 15lbs to lose to get in contest shape (which you are aware is far from the truth, right?)

You asked for my honest opinion and here's what I would advise you if you consider getting into BB:
First of all you need to cut seriously. IMO you have at least 15lbs of fat to lose so one can really see your frame and how much muscle mass is actually under the layer. Take a photo of yourself then and I can tell you more.
But of course - any1 can get far in BB. It's just that your body type/genetics determine whether you'll be able to get to compete in the heavyweight categories or not. Some people never get there despite 100% motivation and discipline, unfortunately.

So, I'd say you should start off with a decent cutting diet. You'll also need to change up your training a bit and include more volume in your workouts (at least I think so from what I know about PL workouts, alltho I was never into it and so I'm not the guy to ask questions about it)

 

[the small soldier]

@ soldier

Sorry I have to say this but you're far from 14% BF. I'd say you're well over 20% (according to those pics). It's kind of hard to tell your potential because I can't even see your frame well (which is extremely important - for most guys their body structure tells you instantly where they could get in BB.
I see people often underestimate their BF%. If you were 14% that would mean you only have about 15lbs to lose to get in contest shape (which you are aware is far from the truth, right?)

You asked for my honest opinion and here's what I would advise you if you consider getting into BB:
First of all you need to cut seriously. IMO you have at least 15lbs of fat to lose so one can really see your frame and how much muscle mass is actually under the layer. Take a photo of yourself then and I can tell you more.
But of course - any1 can get far in BB. It's just that your body type/genetics determine whether you'll be able to get to compete in the heavyweight categories or not. Some people never get there despite 100% motivation and discipline, unfortunately.

So, I'd say you should start off with a decent cutting diet. You'll also need to change up your training a bit and include more volume in your workouts (at least I think so from what I know about PL workouts, alltho I was never into it and so I'm not the guy to ask questions about it)

14% is what i got check at by caliper IDK. the trainer at the gym did it..I'm not mad or upset I appreciate the honesty. I'll be doing a PL show next week and again in July So I'll probably just keep maintaing at where I'm at now until July and cut til sept? I'd like to do a BB by the sept of 2013. I know currently im no where near competetion shape I weigh about 208 I wouldn't even think of competeing without dropping probably 30 pounds, but IDK how to do that and still spare muscle. I lose muscle mass and strength very quickly.

Here's a pic from just now, no pump, no flex just standing:

http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y244/nodath/workout/Photo78.jpg

 

[the small soldier]

as far as volume in workouts its fairly low depending on the day. I do max effort (heavy days very low volume) and dynamic days (for speed) I do high volume BB type workouts when I'm going to have several months between contests, but between now and July I'm focused on moving some weight.

 

[burnthiscorpse]

Here's a pic from just now, no pump, no flex just standing:

http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y244/nodath/workout/Photo78.jpg

Lots of muscle mass but I agree with insanity....your around 20%

 

[the small soldier]

Lots of muscle mass but I agree with insanity....your around 20%

LOL. time for more morning cardio.

thanks

i just looked at the pic I posted when i got test around 13%...I think I gained a lot more fat in the last few weeks than I should have. I was trying to keep strength up for these power meets. I'll start morning cardio again tomorrow just to keep fat down, maybe diet down all june, refeed the two weeks before my PL meet in July and diet down hard from july to sept. I really don't want to lose strength and mucle anyone think 15mg of dbol a day with some forma and some sarms would help me spare mass if I do some IF and hardcore cadio

 

[the small soldier]

just for comparison here is a pic from 2004 before I was into weight training I was an endurce athelete doing plyo for strength (sorry for kinda hijacking this thread but all the discussion kind of led me to this so @insanity if you want me to continue this in a new thread I will)

2004
http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y244/nodath/Random/Picture3.jpg

 

[insanityapproved]

No man I definitely want you to stay in this thread Good questions asked and that's what this thread was made for in the first place!

You got quite a bit to lose, but that shouldn't be a major problem. Organise and start killing it
And if you'll need any help with your diet / training program , I'll be starting my online consultations next week along with my new website. First few who get in will get it 100% free. Give me a few days guys as this work is kicking my ass right now. I'll keep you updated. Doing my best I promise

Dbol is an awful choice to use while dieting IMO. Why not simply use test? Will work 500% better, guaranteed

 

[the small soldier]

No man I definitely want you to stay in this thread Good questions asked and that's what this thread was made for in the first place!

You got quite a bit to lose, but that shouldn't be a major problem. Organise and start killing it
And if you'll need any help with your diet / training program , I'll be starting my online consultations next week along with my new website. First few who get in will get it 100% free. Give me a few days guys as this work is kicking my ass right now. I'll keep you updated. Doing my best I promise

Dbol is an awful choice to use while dieting IMO. Why not simply use test? Will work 500% better, guaranteed

You're the man brother! I have test anavar and dbol in endless supply I'll run test. I would love to work with you through online consultation when your site is up and running I'm all in.

 

[insanityapproved]

got damn this winstrol + anavar combo is an overkill lol .. the pumps are going to kill me one day I swear Tried tidying up my appartment a bit and after 20mins of bending over I got such a painful pump in my lower back I had to sit down and stretch it for a good 5min to stop hurting lol.

 

[the small soldier]

got damn this winstrol + anavar combo is an overkill lol .. the pumps are going to kill me one day I swear Tried tidying up my appartment a bit and after 20mins of bending over I got such a painful pump in my lower back I had to sit down and stretch it for a good 5min to stop hurting lol.

Dbol does that to me!.. Question.. do you think it's stupid to cut about 10 pounds from may to July and run some dbol right before contest.. Stop dbol 1 week before, then dbol and test for a 10 week clean bulk after my PL contest ... Cruise for about 10 weeks to maintain and run a test anavar blast with some GW. Restrict calories, lots of cardio and IF clean eating for 10 more weeks to cut fat? .. At this point I would like to be focusing more on BB and asthetics with a goal of doing a show by sept 2013.