This is whats WRONG with AAS usage to me

[babbabuee]

nighthawkk, that's kind of the point I was trying to make in a non-confrontational manner. I agree with you. I'll bet 80% of the guys taking juice weren't 220lbs with 8%BF when they did there first cycle. However, there are a lot of guys that go into AAS without enough knowledge and experience and those guys are usually either idiots or too young and inexperienced to know better. Ok guys, I gotto go drop off the kids at the pool.

 

[Lestat]

its an UNFLEXED leg..

give the guy a fucking break...

I look at my leg unflexed and its not much better...

I bet shaved, with a pump, and flexed up he's got plenty of muscle.

 

[tiger88]

well i like his site that he made up.......even though his legs are not big or lean......he has set up a site where he helps ppl injecting...

 

[sk*]

That's XBiker. Not all the pics on the site are his though, a few other people voluntered. You can see by looking at the strict differences in size and shape from person to person.

One thing though, why not just worry about yourself? Who cares what other people do?

People take things for different purposes, who are you or me to judge them?

-sk

 

[DepressiveJuice]

One thing though, why not just worry about yourself? Who cares what other people do?

People take things for different purposes, who are you or me to judge them?

-sk

what more is there to say?

 

[Nelson Montana]

I don't see it as judgemental thing. But the original point is valid.

The most hard-ass bunch of bros I ever trained with was at a Ballys on Long Island. I doubt if ANYBODY was juicing and there were a dozen guys with better legs than that -- even mine, and I started with sticks.
Meanwhile, I've since trained in hardcore gyms where guys were juicing like pros but they didn't train nearly as hard or look half as good.

And the reason, I believe, is this.

Steroids will help. But if a gram of gear doesn't make you look any better than a natural athlete, the answer isn't more gear -- it's more lifting. Now suck it up and start squatting!

 

[BigAndy69]

The bottom line is some people are quick to think they are "hardgainers". The truth is you have as much of a chance of being an Elite level athlete as you do of being a hardgainer. We all hit plateaus; some people will look at there diets, modify there routines, get more sleep, try different training approaches...others will go buy the latest scam supplement or stick a needle in themselves. If you are in your early twenties, there is no excuse, you have plenty of test flowing in you to make gains.

 

[needsize]

I've seen that pic before and thought the same thing, but it just helps prove what I've thought all along, the vast majority of guys that jump on juice are using it as a crutch, an easy way out to avoid the years of pounding the iron that the dedicated ones put in first

 

[DJ_UFO]

you are right bodybuilding universe, but remember that in forums like this, we try to find the perfection in the use of steroids. Thanks to all the valuable knowledge of many good bros, including you, we try to train well, eat well, and use steroids in a safe and good form. But besides this forums, there are thousands of kids and guys that are using roids without any research of it. Just hearing comments on the gym or who knows what.

 

[BodybuildingUniverse]

sk: "One thing though, why not just worry about yourself? Who cares what other people do?"

Talking about using the drugs as a crutch like needsize said dude, and I'm sure you never worry about anyone elses business, right?

Not saying one of the the guys doesnt have big arms, that the site isnt helpful, that the dude isn't flexing his leg...blah blah blah

bottomline, my opinion, if you find yourself sticking a needle in your quad and you can't bench 225 and don't squat you may be jumping the gun a hair.