This is whats WRONG with AAS usage to me

[BodybuildingUniverse]

"I understand what you are getting at, but I dont think that picture says anything."

nothing personal against the guy really, I am just talking in general. But do you guys seriously think this leg looks "solid"? A lot of squat time missing in my humble opinion

 

[tonybuddy]

well...

his legs dont look too impressive at all, but then again, he could be holding some fat after a bulking cycle, it could just the unflattering way the picture came out, then again, why would he be flexing and trying to show off the sweep of his quads when he has a needle in his leg?

people use gear for lots of diff reasons and not everyone cares about being huge and or cut, and like terminator says, not all of them are 200+lbs. my 2cents

 

[satchboogie]

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thats the same dude..

certainly not small!!

 

[BodybuildingUniverse]

no way to be sure its the same dude satch. If so, his legs are severly lacking compared to his upper bod. again, he needs to get under the bar. And of course no one's going to be posing while injecting, but you can see the lack of any shape or mass in the teardrop or sweep easy enough. Picture aside, most jump on the anabolic wagon way too early IMHO

 

[The_Eviscerator]

He may be big, and I am glad he has decided to make an educational site, but it would be nice to have someone more defined to actually see the muscle heads he is hitting. They seem to have pics of a new dude who is actually much leaner so those are the places I try. I shot triceps the other day using their directions with no problem.

 

[satchboogie]

i will agree that his quads certainly not proportional to the upper body.

 

[babbabuee]

Well, i tend to disagree a bit. First off I'm one of those guys that could gain some more naturally. I've learned how to gain weight without AAS', and it's much the same as being on AAS to me. I have to work my ass off at the gym, eat like a mofo and get plenty of rest. Those are some of the constants that everyone mentions on this site. My logic is like this: If I'm going to pound 4000-6000 calories, 250g of protein per day and bust my ass at the gym... then why not do the juice because I'll gain a lot more, and a lot faster. i plan on lifting for the rest of my life, but my goal is to hit about 5'8" 185-190lbs cut, and I'm almost at 170 now. If I try to get there naturally, I'm looking at a couple years at least. If I juice I can cut that time in half and once i reach it... well hell, once I reach it I think maintaining will be a lot easier than eating 7 meals a day and lifting like it's going out of style. Shit, i hope that made sense, I'm all fucked up here. Had a turkey sandwich at subway yesterday and I've been pissin out my ass for 12 hours, and violently vomiting. I'm just now eating for the first time, an english muffin. I don't even want to think about what I weigh in at right now.

 

[BodybuildingUniverse]

Just curious babba, how long you been training? good luck with the pissing out of the ass thing - nasty.

 

[babbabuee]

well bodybuilding, at age 24 I weighed about 127lbs and started lifting and went naturally to about 145 in a years time. Since then I've been involved in a lot of sports and activities so my weight lifting was on and off and when I was training regularly, it wasn't really to gain so much size, just to look good. besides, it's fuckin hard to gain size in the gym if I'm playing basketball 4-5 days a week (2-3 hours each time) and surfing a couple days, and mountain biking. So now i'm 32 and I got into bodybuilding more seriously the past year and a half and went from 150lbs to 164lbs before I started my first sust/dbol cycle earlier this year. I ballooned to 181lbs and ended up at about 172lbs before I ate shit on my dirtbike and couldn't lift for several months immediately following my cycle. So I dropped to a measly 160lbs and in the past 2 months I've gotten back up to a solid 168lbs and plan on being 170 before I start my next test/eq cycle in 2-4 weeks, depending on how my back is feeling. I hear what you're saying though about guys that CAN'T and DON'T KNOW HOW to gain naturally, but I'm not one of those guys. I can do it, I'm just not the most patient man on the planet.

 

[Nighthawkk]

Can we please stop knocking other people. Not everyone can be 220lbs with 8% bf prior to juicing...most don't even come close. It all comes down to genetics and the effort put into training and eating. Who is to judge how much a person should weigh or look before starting to use anabolics? I find it very hypocritical to deem a person worthy or unworthy of using AAS, when we use them ourselves to our heart's content, and many of us before reaching the proverbial "genetic limit." It is a person's choice to put what they wish into their own bodies, and if they feel they are ready to take the next step, so be it (providing they are of age of course).