The FAT Chronicles

[ATrollFromTheFatBoard]

A fat person with the same qualifications can't compete with a good looking person with the same qualifications.

When you line up a overweight person against a leaner counterpart the lean person almost always wins. It is a fact. If you want the sources from where i know this i can give them to you.

I AM an overweight person. I don't need any sources quoted to me, because I see this phenomenon up close and personal all the time. Including on this board!

Overweight people have too little confidence to speak up because society has made them ashamed of themselves, sorry, but it is just the way it is.

Uh, yeah, I can relate to this one as well.



But I have to say that perhaps all this "lookism" is a little misguided, because

I know one thing for sure and that is that i would prefer a girl who has put the same amount of time into their body as i have.

I hate to bring up the obvious, but what about the personality??? I actually read that a survey done among young men revealed that the majority would rather date a drug addict than someone who is overweight.

So what if a person comes wrapped up in a pretty little package? I would personally prefer someone who has put time into their personality over someone who has slaved over their body. Loyalty, fairness, kindness, humor, and the ability to truly care for another person are qualities you can't put a price on. There are an awful lot of jerky men out there who think they are wonderful because they LOOK a certain way. But when you are down with somebody, in a marriage, raising kids, and the stresses of life hit, it's what the heart is made of, not what the body is made of, that is going to get you through.

This is not to say that people who are physically fit can't/don't have some of these qualities. But, from some of the posts on this thread, I have to wonder if the quality of human compassion is lacking in more than a few. And I think looks receive much, much too much importance in our society. Pretty doesn't mean that goodness or mental health necessarily lie underneath.

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Just today I received a fax from a man, married thrity-nine years, who describes his wife as, "not just my friend, but my best friend and lover. I have a love for her that is more to me than life -- to me she grows more beautiful each year." I doubt he said that because after thirty-nine years she looks more and more like Playboy bunny.

-- Dr. Laura Schlessinger

 

[Frackal]

fucking fat people, LOSE SOME FUCKING WEIGHT YOU FAT BASTARDS. FOOD Isnt there for pleasure its there for nutrition, fuel. YOU MAKE ME SICK>

hahhahahhaa

 

[p0ink]

I hate to bring up the obvious, but what about the personality??? I actually read that a survey done among young men revealed that the majority would rather date a drug addict than someone who is overweight.

as long as the girl wasnt trying to pawn any of my shit for coke, i dont see what te problem would be. hell yeah, i would rather date a convicted felon or ex-con before i was to date a fat girl.

 

[casavant]

I must say, in all honesty I wouldn't date a fat girl. No way- I would not be sexually attracted to them in the least.

 

[p0ink]

i would keep her around in case we became snowbound and had to result to canabalism. but thats about it.

 

[Drizzt]

I am tired of reading this entire thread so I shall just post my neanderthal views. Fat people are lazy and before you critize me shut the fuck up fattie and listen. I have seen NUMEROUS times in all these fat fucks posts about them "not wanting" to work out hard enough to lose weight so they are happy with "learning to love themselves" well excuse me while *yawn*. I don't give a damn if you have "learned to love yourself" it doesn't mean I will learn to love you also. I look at fat people as lazy people simply because they have no determination to make themselves better they instead look for fat asses of fellow mindset to blow wind up their skirts and make them feel all "warm and fuzzy" inside. Working out isn't easy its not supposed to be complaining because you have ran a couple miles and didn't see any improvements makes me more pissed than it does sympathetic. If anyone wants something bad enough they will change no matter what it takes. If fat asses want to be thin bad enough they will do whatever it takes for how long it takes to acheive their goals, same thing with bodybuilders. Do you think we woke up one day with muscles???.......NO most of us "sans genetic freaks" have worked our asses off day in and day out eating like tanks in the winter and dieting like hell in the summer, is it fun?? To me it is to most its not but I WANT IT BAD ENOUGH so I will go through whatever I have to to reach my goal. My basic analogy in this entire post isn't fat asses don't want it bad enough they are just to fucking lazy to do it. Thats all it boils down to fat= lazy and I don't care how many fat fucks post here telling me their sob story if you wanted to get in shape and made a concious effort to remove the cheeto bag from your hand you could succeed. Until then shut the fuck up and move your fat ass outta my way.

Drizz

 

[ATrollFromTheFatBoard]

*sighs*

Drizz, I just don't think you're getting it, dear.

I wasn't "running a couple of miles." With the amount of work I did I could almost have run a marathon. I didn't choose to, but that's beside the point.

I did enough work to get thin, so don't tell me I am too lazy to do the work. I weighed 135 lbs and wore a size 8, and I guess I was about a size 14 when I started, so don't tell me I "didn't see any improvements." You just aren't reading carefully. What happened to me was that I hit the Wall Of Diminishing Returns, got frustrated, and quit.

Perhaps if I had known enough to look into weightlifting at that point, none of that would have happened to me. From what I read on here, I should have been doing weights. If I had stopped running so much and started working with weights, would things have turned out differently for me? But that's beside the point now. The point is, I have to start all over again. Kinda like climbing a greased pole ... but my goal will never be to look like a bodybuilder. That doesn't mean I think that isn't a worthy goal, or that I don't respect people who do. It just isn't a goal *I* want to pursue at this point.



Having said that: *What* is the deal with all this judgement, guys?? You don't read carefully, then you tell me I am lazy. You just look at someone, and you think you know all about them. That makes as much sense as me looking at the next really buff person I see and thinking, "Those people are all the same. They are vain, narcissistic, and egotistical; they think because they look good that they are perfect, and they are narrowminded and condescending." How much sense would that make?? It's very analogous to what you are doing here.

When you meet someone fat, you may THINK you know why they are the way they are, you may THINK you know their whole life story, but you do not. Is it that hard to keep an open mind about other people, and to respect another as you would yourself? Is it that hard to treat the next person the way you would like to be treated?

I wonder sometimes if some of you who are so proud of your bodies are perhaps putting too many of your self-esteem egg (whites) in one place -- the gym. Suppose some terrible accident befell you tomorrow, like Christopher Reeve, and you could never have the body you have now again? What other internal resources have you developed, what else is there about you that is strong and full of integrity, that you are proud of? I see some people being very shallow here, so I wonder about that.

Some fat people blame everything that is wrong in their lives on their fat and never address their other shortcomings. I wonder if some of you never bother to address your shortcomings either... we've all got 'em. It worries me that you aren't more compassionate toward other people who are worse off than you -- and no, that doesn't mean supporting them in staying the way they are. It means looking at them as people worthy of respect no matter what they've done or how they got the way they are, and speaking to them that way if you really care about them and their problems. It's the only way to effect positive change in the world. The fact that we've just celebrated Easter suggests to me that even God isn't as hard on people as you are. Jesus came to save everybody -- not just the people who are bodybuilders.

 

[Sebass67]

Well, about the part with fat women compared to a drug addict.
I guess it would depend on how obese she was.

But the point is this: It's not that i don't love a good personality, personality is huge in my book. I have high standards. I would go on a date or two with a good looking girl but if i can't have a good conversation it's over. I ain't wasting my time.

Interesting thing i hear all the time is this paradigm:

Good looking girls don't learn to have good conversation because they don't need to.
Not so attractive girls need to have good personalities in order to make up for flaws in their bodies.

??? Merit?

Well, my picky assness has left me with no girlfriends ever but it only bugs me once in a while to be honest. I'll wait it out and i am sure it will be worth it.

Drizz,

Ok...a significant portion of obese North Americans do dick all for themselves besides stuffing doritos down their throats and watching TV all day. But, at least give some respect to someone who has made an effort to change and maybe, with education, can make a change that will last if she makes that decision.

 

[ATrollFromTheFatBoard]

Just don't put us all in the same boat. (Thanx, Sebass! )

And even if you do get some info that suggests that a person, fat or thin, is a lazy-ass, think about this:

All lazy-ass fat people (as well as the ones that are not lazy-all) have been scorned for their weight for as long as they have been fat.

It hasn't motivated them to change (obviously).

Now, if you are doing the SAME OLD THING over and over and over again and it doesn't work ... why not try a different approach to the person??? Or, accept that that person has made a decision not to grow (psychologically, I mean ... obviously!), and turn your efforts, without bitterness and judgement, to someone who wants to change and whom you CAN help.

Even rats in a maze learn to change their approach when what they are doing isn't working ...

 

[Sebass67]

See...there is this air about the whole situation.

Case Example #1: My brother: Alright, he has put on a bunch of weight and now he would never go to the pool because he is ashamed. So, i ask him if he wants to come to the gym with me. Than he sells me out a few times and i get pissed. This shit drives me mad like when someone is that lazy and it is THAT hard just to go to the gym. My mom gets pissed at me tells me to layoff. I layoff, i try to be gentle. So here is what happens. He goes to the gym on his own: barely touches a weight, only does cardio, this does DICK all. Than he starts weights but i guess that was too hard for him and now, all of a sudden he has no time and can't go to the gym anymore. BYE BYE membership and he is back on his way to being a fat ass. I am not riding his ass allday either, i don't even live with him. When i bring the topic up, all he talks about are cars to divert attention. He doesn't like talking about it and he isn't willing to change. He settles for mediocrity.

His girlfriend is a lazy bitch and this only comes to make him feel better.

Fat mentality is contagious i swear. That mentality of helplessness is the biggest piss off in the world. Wanna know what set me off the deep end and got me lose my weight besides tons of other shit i've heard: 1 guy on my football team makes a smart ass comment while we are watching film saying something along the lines of: Look at the gut on that guy. Well, i am glad he did because i realized just what kind of fat ass i was. I said to myself that that summer i was going to go through hell i wouldn't care how painful it would be or if the results would come overnight. I worked and worked and worked and lost 30 pds and i am better for it.

One reason people say shit to fat people is because they have proven time and time again that they can't do it themselves.