Teens that want to juice will juice, period. The best thing we can do is educate them. That being said, I still disagree with mod about juicing when you are young, I will say right now I'm a very narcissistic person, and on top of that I got fucked with an incredible amount during highschool, so my views are not at all orthodox. I think if I would have been bigger I might have developed into a more grounded person. I came out of high school at 125 lbs, I tried everything, I was cramming Mega Mass 4000 down my throat, loaded up on vanadyl sulfate, dibencozide, boron...6000 calories a day and I got no where. I got stronger, when I weighed 115 I could bench 185, but I never got any bigger. If I could take what I know now back to highschool, I would juice in a heartbeat, the key is knowledge. If you're under 21 you should not be using aromatizing drugs, as far as loosing your gains when you come off cycle, again the key is knowledge, if you don't know what you're doing, you can certainly loose your gains. Same with gyno, it can be defeated with the proper application of knowledge. You will not stunt your growth by using non-aromatizing drugs, you might even accelerate your bone growth. The one thing I agree with is the affects on your mood/mentality, your teen years are full of turmoil to begin with, and adding androgens could cause some real problems, but once again the proper application of knowledge can minimize the impact androgens have on your mood. Androgens lower all of your catecholamines, but they can be boosted with St. Johns Wort and ephedrine. Androgens also lower seretonin levels, but again they can be boosted with 5-HTP, or in the case of MOD Paxil. Unfortunately the teens that need to be reached will never see this, if they're on this board than they should already be educated, or on their way there. Just a little something from the other perspective