TCyp every 10 days for HRT purposes?

[needtogetarmy]

I think you got on HRT unnecessarily and i think its a blessing this happened to you so you didn't stay on longer. you want to stay on the upper end of the range? no one can tell the difference between being on middle of the range and the higher end of the range. re-evaluate your own life if you are feeling down, a higher test level will not make a difference... now a level at 1500+ then yeah you will 'feel' it.. that is what bros feel on cycle running 500mg test per week and it feels good and makes us monsters in the gym.

and a higher test level doesn't ensure you will have bulging muscles, it just helps your body go into a anabolic environment.. I just got down with my PCT and now I am bridging between cycles. my total test levels are probably somewhere between 150-200 only. they were 119 a month ago and 98 a month before that right after my cycle during the shut down stage. and I am STILL able to get in fantastic workouts thanks to natty supps.

Excellent post.

One of the guys in Ironman Mag (the older guy - I cannot remember his name) talked about test levels and he is 100% natty and he said his are always in the lower part of the natural range. He is still able to pack on mass because of diet and exercise.

 

[Messor]

and I am STILL able to get in fantastic workouts thanks to natty supps.

Which supps are you getting the best results with?

 

[Discreet User]

Some of you may remember my HRT debacle earlier this year where I was on 100mg/wk Cyp and my system got shutdown. Part of this was due to (I think) to much test for too long (10 months) and part was due to not using any ancillaries to prevent shutdown. Im ok now and want to get back on the test but think 100mg/wk is too much. What do you guys think of 100mg once every 10 days? I would do 50mg every 5 days but now were talking 1/4 ml since my script is for 200mg/ml strength. I will also be using HCG intermittently, probably some of needtos stuff also, for shutdown prevention. I miss being on test damn it lol

Why do you believe that 100mg/wk is too much?

Is it not possible that 100mg/wk or more could be beneficial if monitored properly and with proper ancillary use?

It appears the consensus is that any meaningful amount of exogenous test is going to shut you down...

 

[stevesmi]

Excellent post.

One of the guys in Ironman Mag (the older guy - I cannot remember his name) talked about test levels and he is 100% natty and he said his are always in the lower part of the natural range. He is still able to pack on mass because of diet and exercise.

I learned that myself. I know guys who take testosterone and they look pathetic and fat. they dont eat well and they dont exercise.

I really believe we grow muscle when we keep our bodies in an anabolic state.. pumping iron is a good way to do that. and eating clean and often.

 

[stevesmi]

Which supps are you getting the best results with?

WHOLE FOODS is my #1 supplement.

but i know that isn't what you are looking for. I am taking bridge 3 X per day and am taking gear

and before sex I take unleashed.

they seem to be holding the fort for me while I am in recovery mode.

yes being on cycle is amazing and there is nothing like it, but I am still able to get in some fantastic workouts even with low test levels. my gains are still there, my strength is holding steady. still doing 225 for 9-10 reps on the bench.

 

[-SD-]

Yea guys im really just trying bump up my already ok natural test level but since its not a cycle and not replacing clinically low test its not worth it so im not going to do it. Got all this prescription test in my closet now, oh well lol

 

[ghettostudmuffin]

Last time I was on 500mg sust ew only I came off after a short 8 week cycle with ZERO pct.

Lemme tell you it's fucking night and day coming off with nolva/hcg. The few times before using those I hardly noticed any crappy feeling or mood effects.

Coming off cold with no ai/supps I felt like total horse shit for the better part of a week. No energy or vigor, blah/depressed mood. It was B A D.

And then bam, feeling ok.

Annnyhow.


You say you want to be at the high end of normal. If that's the case I would try running some of Needto's supps and call it good.

Otherwise what you really want is to feel "on". I miss it atm and can't fucking wait to start the next cycle.

If you are using any extraneous hormones you are shutting down your own production. Fucking around with 50-100-150mg or whatever here and there to get to the high end of normal is dumb.

Either stay "on" and blast and cruise or cycle completely on/off with time off=cycle+pct like most.

There is no inbetween on those 2 options.

 

[ArmaniAK47]

I guess Im not explaining correctly. What Im shooting for is a higher range that still in the normal range. Is this possible without getting shut down or does it simply not matter what my levels are naturally, if any test is done i will get shut down no matter what i use such as hcg etc?
If it seems that no matter what im going to eventually get shut down then i can play this game of go on, get shut down, come off, get back to normal, repeat. As long as there is no permanent damage.

If you want high-natural levels just don't juice...
Unless you like the hrt.. if you like hrt and don't mind getting shut down take 100mgs/week..

Take HCGenerate and other otc products.. you can also take HCG once every couple weeks..

But injecting testosterone will eventually shut you down.. It's replacing what is already there.. We inject it because it's more stable than natural test in terms of predictions.. We can predict side effects and manage gains and blood levels..

And we can make our level far surpassed to natural ones..

 

[-SD-]

If you want high-natural levels just don't juice...
Unless you like the hrt.. if you like hrt and don't mind getting shut down take 100mgs/week..

Take HCGenerate and other otc products.. you can also take HCG once every couple weeks..

But injecting testosterone will eventually shut you down.. It's replacing what is already there.. We inject it because it's more stable than natural test in terms of predictions.. We can predict side effects and manage gains and blood levels..

And we can make our level far surpassed to natural ones..

see my post just above bro

 

[stevesmi]

Yea guys im really just trying bump up my already ok natural test level but since its not a cycle and not replacing clinically low test its not worth it so im not going to do it. Got all this prescription test in my closet now, oh well lol

read my thread about HMG. i think that may help you bigtime.

your body will recover.. it just will take TIME. I will tell you upfront probably a year to recover from 9 months of test is a good estimate for your HPTA to be close to fully restored.

you can run some hcg/HMG, natty supps, nolva (i personally dont like Clomid but some guys swear by it), and even an extreme low dose dostinex to help lower prolactin during this time.

natty supps were your answer all along, not testosterone!! they dont suppress you. chalk it up as a lesson learned. 9 months on is recoverable.